Samsung Is Reportedly Planning To Raise Chip Prices By 20% - Slashdot

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          I was about ready to mod you as "Insightful" until I got to your last two sentences. You had great examples and a good analysis, but then you went and lost your audience with your vitriol at the end. Unfortunate choice.

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            You didn't find the oil company boogey-man dogma as nauseating as I did? I pointed out a valid economic point. @ArchieBunker came back a New Yorker article, which, as insightful as that must be, is obviously a hate-bashing piece written by a far-left rag against one of their favorite punching bags of an industry. It is infuriating.
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                Archiebunker did pick on oil companies, as the original article was focused on a semiconductor manufacturer. Oil companies had nothing to do with it. Archie bunkers implication was that oil companies are the ones taking advantage; when that is not the case. The case is that dollars worth significantly less than they used to be, and companies that that were profitable before will be further profitable in whole dollar terms but not necessarily in absolute economic terms due to the inflation our economy is exp
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          You don't understand how any of this works, do you? If costs were rising due to inflation then the corporations wouldn't be posting record profits — yes, still record profits when adjusted for inflation.

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  Apple demands at least 5-year price and availability guarantees.

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    Complex contracts like that may have considerations that might peg prices to inflation and/or costs of some important raw material. Also, transportation may be handled external to the acquisition, so Apple can be flexible with where the chips go. They have expanded production beyond China. For example into India, to many even around excessive import tariffs.

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      True. Also, many companies know that circumstances can quickly change and either charge extra for the multi-year price lock, or as you said have exemptions for specific types of circumstances.

      For example, if I were currently selling a widget for $1 and Apple said they would buy 10,000 a year, with a price lock for the next 5 years, I would examine all the things that could change during the next 5 years and add a buffer for inflation and unforeseen supply changes. There is probably a reason Apple wanted t

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        A "Force Majeure" Clause is the term for exceptions for Hellfire and Brimstone Conditions suddenly appearing. I always loved that term!

        https://www.upcounsel.com/forc... [upcounsel.com]

        https://www.lawinsider.com/cla... [lawinsider.com]

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      Good points, and you're absolutely right.

      Yeah, it's obvious that Apple likes to hedge its bets with Suppliers and Contract Manufacturers.

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    Loads of companies do that. HOWEVER, the reality is in times like this with unprecedented rises in costs companies like Apple need to decide if it is more expensive to renegotiate the contract to help the manufacturer or be bastards and watch them go broke knowing that the other chip manufacturers will be fully aware of this behaviour and will all build large risk reserves into any pricing for Apple meaning that Apple just fucked themselves.

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      True enough.

• It's profiteering. This is what happens when you don't have a healthy and functioning capitalist economy and instead have a handful of trusts. But we've cut the government too much to solve failures in the free market. Which of course is why the government was cut in the first place after decades of lobbying by the company's currently profiteering off of us.
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• ...for at least 20% longer. Issue resolved.

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    Love to, but it will cost me 50-100% more to do that since there's no battery hatch, and I don't buy phones to show people how much money I can waste, so battery replacement is a big percentage of the phone's value.