Why is Big Sur so ugly?
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Why is Big Sur so ugly?
And when Apple pushes this update, do you think it is safe for me to stay on Catalina?
Like I just got my new Mac, and I see this...
Just give it time to become accustomed to the new look.
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Not to say that there aren’t things to criticize in Big Sur, there are certainly flaws (and hopefully Apple will fix them)
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TiggrToo
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Aug 24, 2017 3,064 6,657
Windows XP.This is all my option, but I've heard some hate on Big Sur here and there as well. My question is, why does Apple want to make Mac OS into IOS like seriously; I've always liked how good and "professional" OS X looked, but now it just looks so unprofessional...
And when Apple pushes this update, do you think it is safe for me to stay on Catalina?
Like I just got my new Mac, and I see this...
The exact same criticism was levelled against XP back in the day.
Now it's seen as onr of the best desktop Windows releases ever.
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(Sorry couldn’t help myself)
mikiotty
macrumors 6502
Mar 15, 2014
The dock looks horrible, and so does the menubar with all that rounding, flat translucency and wasted space.
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mj_
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May 18, 2017 1,233
This! I couldn't have said it better, thank you. People whine and bitch about he most insignificant interface changes such as new icons, relocated buttons, etc. As we speak there's a major ********* happening among Windows users caused by, you guessed it, a new Edge icon....Its common to perceive any changes from the familiar appearance as ugly. People’s aesthetic sence on average is quite inflexible. As people get used to it, this perception will gradually change. Case in point: this was the case with virtually any change to the UI.
Three things to keep in mind:
1) beauty lies in the eye of the beholder
2) dissatisfied users are roughly a gazillion times more vocal than satisfied ones
3) everything you read on the internet has to be taken with a grain of salt
I, for one, welcome the change. It's fresh, it's new, and people will get used to it and consider it the greatest thing since sliced bread eventually anyway. Just wait for the next UI overhaul.
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lunarworks
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Jun 17, 2003 1,972 5,208
Apple, Big Sur, and the rise of Neumorphism
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(I am being sarcastic, btw 😉)
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NewUsername
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We also tend to exaggarate differences. I showed Big Sur to my wife and asked what she thought of it. She used it for thirty minutes, then, to my astonishment, she said: I don’t see any difference.
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fisherking
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Jul 16, 2010 7,998 2,657
because she's not an obsessive nerd who lives on an internet forum and sweats every little detail (often missing the big picture).To some extent, it IS really ugly, especially the menu bar. But I am sure a lot will be ironed out by September. Now it’s still just a beta.
We also tend to exaggarate differences. I showed Big Sur to my wife and asked what she thought of it. She used it for thirty minutes, then, to my astonishment, she said: I don’t see any difference.
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redheeler
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I second this. My only concern is with the toolbars and titlebars now taking up more space.I generally like the UI except for the icons. Those are ugly af.
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Like guys, I know it is something getting used to; but they literally made it into IOS...
redheeler
macrumors 604
People have been saying this with almost every release since Lion. That's 9 years. I get why people are upset about the "iOSification" of the Mac, but seeing the same complaints over and over gets old after a while.Like guys, I know it is something getting used to; but they literally made it into IOS...
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Wowfunhappy
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Time doesn't make problems go away. Especially when the iOSification is in fact getting more extreme.People have been saying this with almost every release since Lion. That's 9 years. I get why people are upset about the "iOSification" of the Mac, but seeing the same complaints over and over gets old after a while.
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Some personal context:
I hate the visuals of Yosemite-era Mac OS. I hated it the moment I saw Yosemite, and I've continued to hate it ever since. There is no contrast—everything is white (or black, in dark mode) and plain and flat.
I disliked it so much that this year, I finally got fed up and downgraded all of my primary computers to OS X Mavericks. This involved finding a new set of compatible programs and buying new (old) hardware, because my existing hardware was too new.
So, obviously, I'm not one to automatically go for the new and shiny... and yet, I really like the design of Big Sur. There's actual contrast again, and color and depth. The icons are easy to scan, clickable elements are obviously clickable, and it all feels vibrant and attractive.
(For the forseeable future, I'm not leaving my new (old) Mavericks machines, because I have other problems with the direction of Mac OS—permission prompts that break all of my scripts, ever-changing app compatibility, etc—but I do feel really good about where the design is headed.)
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Post Maverics macOS doesn't even look that different, a bit lighter gradients, and added visual effects for transparency.I hate the visuals of Yosemite-era Mac OS. I hated it the moment I saw Yosemite, and I've continued to hate it ever since. There is no contrast—everything is white (or black, in dark mode) and plain and flat.
It's actually harder to read text in menus now.There's actual contrast again
Titlebars are #FFFFFF now, zero gradients.and color and depth
By being stuck in same general shape? Toolbar buttons don't even have borders anymore.The icons are easy to scan, clickable elements are obviously clickable
By being more flat?and it all feels vibrant and attractive.
I don't see how you can prefer this toddlerification of OS, compared to slight change that was Yosemite.
Ahhh... the good old days.I also wish, Apple would go back to this:
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Now THAT is a "professional" look!
(I am being sarcastic, btw 😉)
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But what is shown on the Preview app icon?
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jazz1
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Aug 19, 2002 2,711 1,968
Thanks for the "Hot Tub Time Machine" ride and "Back to The Future"! I sold my //+ just to get the first Mac. Apple, I want to be wowed like that again!I also wish, Apple would go back to this:
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Now THAT is a "professional" look!
(I am being sarcastic, btw 😉)
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Audit13
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ValSalva
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Jun 26, 2009 3,753
I believe in Leopard and Snow Leopard the transparency of the menu bar could be turned off. It wasn't NEARLY as transparent as it is in Big Sur though. Like so many aspects of Big Sur's update, I don't like the menu bar transparency and wish there was a way to turn it off.One serious comment about the menu bar - it’s transparent. I remember this being a feature in a previous version of MacOS and I turned it off as it just made the menu harder to see.
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