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  You know the idea behind every version of Windows since 7, every version of MacOS since Spotlight was introduced (circa 2005) and every halfway decent Linux distribution is that you SEARCH for things rather than navigate menus, right? Click the start menu and start typing what you want. The vast majority of the time Windows will get you there before you've finished typing the entire word.

  Out of all the complaints -- many legitimate -- about changes to Windows over the years, this is by far the lamest. I

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  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @06:28PM (#64440330)

    My key problem with this is that I know WHERE my program is in the program menu, but I don't know what it's called. Care to tell me how to search for a program you don't know the exact name of?

    And frankly, with more and more programs coming up with more and more esoteric names...

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      I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how a program can be critical to your daily workflow but not worthy remembering the name of.

      You're not the first person I've heard with this complaint on/., which I find richly ironic, given the large number of people here who are comfortable with both Linux and its various shells. Tell me, if you're working from a terminal, how effective can you be without knowing the name of the program you need to execute? Oh gosh, what was that text editor called? Somethi

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        "You're not the first person I've heard with this complaint on/., which I find richly ironic, given the large number of people here who are comfortable with both Linux and its various shells."

        It never crossed your mind that when a number of technologically literate people point to the same thing and say it's a problem, it may in fact be a problem? So instead of proceeding on that basis, you ridicule them and dismiss their complaint with a sneer. Why can't I help but be reminded of the proliferation in wo

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        Outlook email setup where the username is not the email address.

        Trust me you can't do it with outlook nor in settings.

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        Not disagreeing with you on the Search thing but not knowing names and programs is quite normal. Even outside the IT context. Do you know the exact shade, shape, and color of all the buttons in every car you drive? No, you know the general location, the general look and feel, and general usage.

        Same with important programs. The program name, load time, its location, etc aren't the important part. It's using it to do the task at hand. Everything else is just wait time that your brain doesn't allocate much re

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          My added emphasis to your text. You're arguing for basically what happened, at least with Windows. Windows 7 introduced the search concept but kept the old Start Menu structure. Windows 10 obfuscated it a bit more but it was still there. It's only in Windows 11 that it really went away and went away is relative because it's STILL THERE, if you care to dig deep enough to find it, but in the day to day why would you have to?

          I call it "muscle memory" and it's not like you can't still take advantage of it.

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      Every modern OS will index the CONTENT of documents along with the FILENAME. No modern OS makes it impossible or even particularly hard to browse the file system, through GUI or CLI, if you find doing so easier to wrap your head around than using search.

      Next easily dismissed complaint?

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        Well that's a lie. I can save text in a plain text file in Windows and Windows Search does not know anything but the filename. I just did it. Care to fib about something else?

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      I name all of my documents I Forgot. That way when I can't remember the name of the document I just say "I forgot" and then I find it instantly.

      Hey... That style of argument worked for that goober in the TV show The Office, right?

      Bonus points if you can post the link to that meme.

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    Searching works great on my Linux machines, but I find that the windows search is garbage. You can install a program, see it in the start menu, and then search for it and not find it.

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      Can't speak for Linux but Windows Search is garbage for settings. For example, for a long time, Windows would "forget" that I have 5.1 speakers after a few sleep cycles and default to stereo. Where is that set? In Sound in Playback tab in the legacy Control Panel. Using Windows Search it does not provide a clear answer. Even if someone types "Sound" hoping to get the Control Panel setting, the closest option presented is "Change System Sounds" which at least brings a user to the correct Control Panel but th

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    Keyword searches and logical menu hierarchies are not mutually exclusive. You don't have to make menu navigation worse so you can search.

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    1) You do know that search does not have results for every setting, right? 2) You do know that it makes things MORE difficult by having people SEARCH by typing for a setting right?

    WTF are you talking about? In no way is the newest version of Windows the equivalent of the Starship Enterprise. That's a huge flaw in your logic. These changes do not make Windows more advanced. That is a rather idiotic take.

    Again you assume that search actually finds the new setting.

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    Why would I want to type the name of something when I'm already using the mouse to point where it used to be?
    Just put it back where it was so I can click on it again.

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      Found the winner of the thread.:-)