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Is there anyone who reached Candidate Master or higher rating...

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Is there anyone who reached Candidate Master or higher rating...

By AvaraKedavra, 5 hours ago, In English

Without preparing for any kind of Olympiad in his/her life.

People with higher rating give advice — keep practicing and your ratings will increase with time. But the same people with higher rating have prepared for various kinds of maths olympiads and thus are able to solve problems on codeforces very easily. So,

I Just want to know if reaching CM or higher is possible for lower mortals like me or we are just being gaslighted(unintentionally) by higher rated people.

5 hours ago, # |

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Not CM+ but I will say my opinion anyway. Imo it is a matter of talent, not of past experience. Those who get to CM+ can think better than the average person, which is really helpful for these problems. The reason why a lot of CM+ people have past math experience is simply because math competitions tend to attract smart people. They didn't actually get better at problem solving by doing math competitions. They were smart in the first place.

we are just being gaslighted(unintentionally) by higher rated people.

The gaslighting is sometimes intentional. Some of them have courses to sell.

5 hours ago, # |

It is IMPOSSIBLE.

My graph is indicative of the average graph of people who start competitive programming without ever preparing for olympiads.

  • 4 hours ago, # ^ |

    Man, Your Skill is of IM level but Your Rainboy-wannabe made you Pupil.

    • 94 minutes ago, # ^ |

      the man at the top of the mountain didn't fall there, sure, but that doesn't mean that the man with broken legs can climb the mountain too

5 hours ago, # |

I haven't prepared for math olympiads so that is why my rating is low compaired to my peers.

  • 4 hours ago, # ^ |

    I am not coping.

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actually there are many people who has reached CM+ without IOI / any type of olympiad background (Infact I won't be surpised if that number is >=60%).I never had any olympiad experience.And I am 100% sure I will reach CM+ very soon unless I die obviously.Also I believe I can be much higher rated even red (And I will do everything it takes just to prove that anyone can be red).Also there are many existent examples in CF who has already become red who never had any olympiad background.I grew in a small city in Bangladesh.From my childhood I have always heard that people coming from a very small city normally aren't able to achieve extra-ordinary things.I have heard them from my relatives, so called friends etc.People will laugh at you,say bad things about you,tell you imaginative, finally hate you.But I refuse to accept their opinions , their thought of reality where I cannot be extra-ordinary. That ability to refuse their thought on you and believe yourself is talent. If you have that talent you can go a long way despite all the odds.

  • 4 hours ago, # ^ |

    Looking at ur CF profile, it seems that u don't use CF as ur first coding-practice platform, where do u practice for CP and How have u reached Expert by solving so less problem in CF?

5 hours ago, # |

I haven't prepared for math olympiads so that is why my rating is low compaired to my peers.

  • 5 hours ago, # ^ |

    you must be from China then haha

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    I am not coping. By the way, someone commented the same thing above. You just copied their comment.

    Spoiler

    • 84 minutes ago, # ^ |

      Don't believe him, I'm his classmate.

4 hours ago, # |

I haven't prepared for math olympiads so that is why my rating is low compaired to my peers.

  • 4 hours ago, # ^ |

    Yeah boi, everyone can be a newbie just like you achieved it, with so much hard work and preservation. orz.

3 hours ago, # |

I'm not so good at maths, I don't really have any hopes at doing well in my country's Math Olympiads, so that's maybe why it took me a year and a half to finally get to CM when guys I know are getting to Master within 6 months :). Still, if you are decently smart and practise, then CM is definitely possible.

  • 2 hours ago, # ^ |

    if you are decently smart

    that's the hard part tho

  • 2 hours ago, # ^ |

    a year and a half is honestly a good result

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I prepared for math olympiads but it didn't help me very much as you can see (probably because I'm a noob at math olympiads as well despite doing them for like 4 years). Of course, there are a lot of people who reached CM / Master without ever doing math olympiads, like hariaakash646 and evenvalue (they're both very intelligent, but never did math olympiads), and I'm sure there are a few such GMs as well.

65 minutes ago, # |

I failed in the very early qualifications of my country's OI. I started at 18. I'm not Chinese nor Russian. What else do you want lol ?

  • 26 minutes ago, # ^ |

    You are Syrian tho.

46 minutes ago, # |

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I don't quite understand. Isn't codeforces a competitive programming platform and isn't competitive programming a kind of Olympiad?

Currently, I do think my rating is low compared to my peers or even the ones who are one year old smaller than me (for example, the hyman00 above). And my rating comes from 74tractor and luck, I don't think it's my real performance. But I don't think that has something to do with MO.

I don't learn MO because I'm just not the type, and that's it.

MO should be banned from OI.

(UPD: That doesn't mean simple primary-school-level math problems.)

Are you tired of bullshit non-algorithm-required constructive problems? Please just together ask MO-type problems get out of OI. I am low-intelligent, and I'm having difficulty solving problems in OI, and you keep on giving me fucking MO problems to satisfy your strange desire to randomly distinguish contestants? Where is the heavenly principle?

I don't think one should train for MO to seek better results in OI. If you are talented (like my friend Rushroom) and interested in MO much more, just escape from OI and persist in MO instead. MO and OI are independent, but those who like giving shaber MO problems to OI are doomed to death.

  • 41 minute(s) ago, # ^ |

    i joined your simp club

    • 13 minutes ago, # ^ |

      I joined your troll club.

  • 34 minutes ago, # ^ |

46 minutes ago, # |

I think the important thing is that you must solve a lot of problems. Solve problems a little bit above your current level. Also, you should do math problems. It's not because problems on Codeforces are "mathforces" problems, it's just because doing math problems is a great way to practice your problem-solving skills.

Personally, I only need 5 contests (div 2) to pass 1850 rating (I'm a secondary school student) without training for any Olympiad or being a Chinese student. Also, being a CM is usually not enough to become a member of my country's Olympiad team (My country's contestants in IOI are usually at least GM).

So about your question, I can confidently say that the answer is yes, of course. Solve a lot of problems, practice your problem-solving skill, and never give up, you'll reach CM one day

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