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Reddit Must Share IP Addresses of Piracy-Discussing Users, Film Studios Say

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Reddit Must Share IP Addresses of Piracy-Discussing Users, Film Studios Say 33

Posted by msmash

on Monday January 15, 2024 @09:51AM from the pushing-the-limits dept.

For the third time in under a year, film studios are pressing Reddit to reveal users allegedly discussing piracy, despite two prior failed attempts. Studios including Voltage Holdings and Screen Media have filed fresh motions to compel Reddit to comply with a subpoena seeking IP addresses and logs of six Redditors, claiming the information is needed for copyright suits against internet provider Frontier Communications.

The same federal judge previously denied the studios' bid to unmask Reddit users, citing First Amendment protections. However, the studios now argue IP addresses fall outside privacy rights. Reddit maintains the new subpoena fails to meet the bar for identifying anonymous online speakers.

Petulant children keep pestering adults until they get what they want. Who raised these people?

We've entered a new era of braindead frivilous lawsuits. The Bar Association should be rolling heads over nonsense filings like this.

  • Re:

    The best way to handle a frivolous lawsuit if the court detects it is for the court to sit on it so long that the identifying data becomes stale and lost in the fog of war or the statute of limitation sets in.

    "Sorry due to a high workload of more important cases we haven't had time to take care of this issue."

    More important cases like parking ticket appeals and similar.

    • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Monday January 15, 2024 @10:47AM (#64159897)

      No the best way for the courts to handle frivolous lawsuits is to make the people who file them pay the court and attorney costs for the defendants. Once bad behavior has a cost associated with it, people are naturally disincentivized from engaging in it. What you've proposed just encourages these bad actors to continue gumming up the courts and wasting other people's time.

      • by Moryath ( 553296 ) on Monday January 15, 2024 @10:50AM (#64159911)

        This is a basic problem with the USA's system of government. Even if you "win" a lawsuit defending yourself, you're on the hook for your own attorneys' fees. If you try to sue a giant corporation, they can just play delay games and bury you in paperwork, until you're bankrupt and can't afford a lawyer any more or you just give up out of frustration.

        Court reform is 1000% needed. Eliminate most of the bullshit tactics that big corporations use to try to obfuscate cases and delay-delay-delay. You win the case? The other party has to cover your attorney fees and court costs. You get made WHOLE, not just "yay I 'won' but I got bankrupted anyways."

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          The problem with the loser paying the winners attorneys fees is that it discourages the little guy form suing the big guy. As you said, corporations will just delay and bury the little guy. It sounds great to say "well when I win the big guy will have to pay my attorneys fees" but what if the little guy loses? Then they are stuck with their own attorney's fees, but also the exorbitant fees of the big corp as well. Even if you have an air tight case, this go wrong and you could lose. Most people are not will

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          It won't happen. The courts work on the same principal that the rest of the country runs on. Wealth = power. If you have more money, you should win be default. Granted, we may bleed you a bit while you bleed the less monied person until they give up, but hey, it's all about protecting the owner class. The monied class. The rest of us should just shut up and go away. If we draw attention to ourselves, we'll see our bank accounts bled dry as well.

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          That's good, but must be done carefully. Otherwise, David sues Goliath Inc. Goliath uses it's large, well funded legal team to bury David and his one lawyer in discovery, hire "experts" who will testi-lie to nearly anything if the price is right, perform fantastically expensive forensic analysis requiring equally fantastically expensive analysis to refute, etc. in order to win the case. The cherry on top is that David gets to pay Goliath's costs.

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          Also it's criminal that how much each side spent on the case isn't factored in when considering the strength of the evidence presented. It's the single most informative factor in a court case (two numbers with a bigger impact than hours of testimony).


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