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Nikola Founder Trevor Milton Sentenced To 4 Years For Securities Fraud
I honestly feel for the guy. I have been a tech entrepreneur. I still work with many. Few people have what it takes to step into the arena. Even fewer have what it takes to win in it. Many will criticize him for what he did. None of those critics matter, because few understand the pressures, the challenges, the s
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Steve Wozniak yeah that guy is a tech entrepreneur. Hell I might be willing to make a case for Bill Gates as a tech entrepreneur albeit a sleazy one. But take away the government programs and Elon Musk is just a guy with a few million dollars from a.com scam.
He absolutely overpromised. It is a verifiable fact that he lied about the range on the early Teslas in order to overcome range anxiety. It's an equally verifiable fact that he lied about the abilities of his self-driving cars and brought in huge a-
Did Musk ever post a video of "Tesla car, on the move", featuring an unpowered Tesla rolling downhill under gravity power?
I don't think Musk or Tesla ever did, but Nikola sure did with one of their supposed trucks. They can mince words all they want, but I see fraud. They should have named the product "Nikola Soapbox Derby", instead of "Nikola truck".-
Technically, "no", but, functionally "yes": A 2016 video that significantly overstated self-driving capabilities was revealed just this year. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t... [cbsnews.com]
The video was shared in a 2016 blog post titled "Full Self-Driving Hardware on All Teslas," that is still available. Before the nearly 4-minute video begins, the screen flashes text reading, "The person in the driver's seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself."
The video then shows a Tesla pulling out of a driveway, stopping at intersections and red lights, traveling on a highway, delivering a person to an office complex and then parallel-parking itself, set to the sound of the Rolling Stones' "Paint it black." The driver's hands hover just below the steering wheel for the duration of the video.
CEO Elon Musk promoted the demonstration on Twitter, writing, "Tesla drives itself (no human input at all)."...
The news service cited a deposition from Ashok Elluswamy, the company's director of Autopilot software, that was taken as part of a lawsuit over a driver's 2018 death in a Tesla."The intent of the video was not to accurately portray what was available for customers in 2016. It was to portray what was possible to build into the system," Elluswamy said, according to a transcript of his deposition cited by Reuters.
Elluswamy said the car was driving a predetermined route in the video and that drivers intervened to take control during trial runs, Reuters reported. He also testified that, during attempts to show the Model X could park itself without a driver, a test car crashed into a fence in Tesla's parking lot, Reuters reported.
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doesn't make Musk less scammy. If one guy stole $10,000 from me and another stole $100,000 I still want both of 'em in jail.
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The Nikola truck rolling downhill became an icon of the fraud, but it it wasn't even remotely the worst thing that Milton pulled.
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If the only thing he ever did was to do more for electric vehicles than anybody else, he would probably deserve a statue. That's not idol worship, it's just common sense.
And you can't have it both ways. If he succeeded only through government, then government seemed to need him in order to succeed. Government certainly didn't succeed at electric vehicles or (anytime recently) space without him.
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You're entitled to your opinions, but man, do yourself a favor and chill out. Might do you some good to check out a therapist.
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a statue is idol worship otherwise what's the point of a statue
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Wow, really? All statues? A statue of MLK?
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You're 100% right about Musk. Gwynne Shotwell is everything at SpaceX. Tesla existed before Musk, but they were telling a bad story and you do have to give him credit for moving the entire automotive industry to seriously consider electric cars (whether they're good or not is still up for debate, but it is worth the discussion).
But the hero worship of Musk is ridiculous. I think the Twitter disaster has shown that Musk is not someone to be admired, rather he is just some bigoted apharteid era Afrikan
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Oh look here. All the talking points of the typical Musk hater.
It never seems to matter that all those points have been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked for up to a decade now. They never get tired of typing them up again and again. And the "conclusions" (if you can call them that) are no better. It is like listening to MAGA types chewing the fat about someone named Clinton or Obama. The process is the same.
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Well, nothing succeeds quite like success. Milton failed. Musk succeeded. Big time.
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That's like respecting someone for winning the lottery. Elmo was born wealthy, and lucked out with a few investments in the dot-com era. Did you know he wanted to rename PayPal "X" despite everyone around him, supported by market research, saying it was an incredibly stupid idea? He got pushed out because he's incompetent.
He's burning Twitter to the ground faster than anyone thought possible though a seemingly endless parade of obviously bad decisions. Everything we've learned about his CyberTruck fias
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I'm sorry, but no. What Milton did was worse than Holmes. It wasn't "fake it until you make it", it was "just flat out lie about things that you absolutely know are total bullsh*t it until you can cash out and leave someone else with the bill". Which has been the guy's entire career, ripping off one group of people after the next, but relying on charisma to get people like you to assume that he "really meant well". The frauds he's carried out through his career (which didn't start at Nikola) haven't bee
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Normally I tend to agree with your posts, but this is one I can't quite get behind.
I'm sorry, but no. What Milton did was worse than Holmes
Since this article is specifically about Milton's sentence, I disagree with this notion. What Milton was convicted of was defrauding investors by lying about the capabilities and progress of his vehicles. While the allegations against Holmes are similar, her lies endangered people's lives. If her tests had shown any false negatives, the patients could have lost preci
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