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ICANN Warns UN May Sideline Tech Community From Future Internet Governance

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• • Re: Seems ridiculous, on the face of it

    And this entire thread up to this point really goes to show why a bunch of ad-slinging crypto-dweebs shouldn't have anything to do with the Internet's future. We could have had an open, peer to peer internet but y'all fucked it up to make competing silos instead of open networks.

• I was at AT&T for some years while they tried to push the ITU-developed ISO protocol stack for networking, X.400 messaging, X.500 directory services. The assumption was since they came out of ITU they'd be adopted in short order and this TCP/IP stuff was a temporary thing. We see how that went.; Rough consensus & running code FTW...

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    Old quote: (I forget who said it)

    "If the OSI developers are messaging each other, it's probably over TCP/IP."

• "At a minimum they need technical people at the table just to tell them when some stupid idea isn't even technically feasible."

  You've just put your finger on it. The politicians don't *want* somebody telling them, "No, you can't do that." They don't care about technical feasibility.

  • The UN is, in principle, about united humanity, but in practice, it's a power grab. Expect much borking.

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      "United humanity" has always been exclusively about consolidating power - and thus control - at the top.

      How could it be anything else? It's just the west's version of the Global Communism propaganda.

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      Exactly.

      This blurb in the synopsis sent chills down my spine:

      and making the internet trustworthy "by introducing accountability criteria for discrimination and misleading content."

      Ok....exactly who all is this compact between...and how much power of enforcement does this actually have on the individual?

      Who the fsck is the US to decide what is "misleading"?

      We've already found that many people purged during covid, were later found to be of sound mine and in many cases were right in their ascertations tha

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        I'm sure you can offer some examples.

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          lol- moderated troll for asking for an example of a claim that seems to be on its face, complete bullshit.
          
          Fucking pathetic.
          • Sadly hard right and libertarian conspiracy theorists, as well as just general trolls, have, every year, become a larger and larger percentage of/.â(TM)s shrinking userbase. I wish/. would find a way to draw more of the old style techy crowd that likes, you know, facts but there hasnt been any evidence they even know how.

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          I'm sure you can offer some examples.

          Well, sure...

          There is NO way that the virus came from the china lab....(turns out there's decent evidence that it may have done just that).

          You MUST wear a mask any mask to prevent disease spread and catching the virus(if it wasn't a well fitter N95 type mask, it did you and other NO good at preventing disease).

          There is NO danger at all from the vaccine...(turns out there were, potential heart problem, especially in younger men).

          This is a "true" vaccine (even though

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            When I asked for examples, I was hoping that I'd get some relevant links (preferably to non-loony pages), not just a list of things you think people said.

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    then we technical people will do like we did for the ITU crap, ignore them

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    In a previous life I worked for a company that was being forced by the Government to immediately disconnect and separate a handful of operating sites from the singular global network due to security mandates. After a few days of contracts being suspended and the business starting to feel the pinch, a consultant chimed in and said "just unplug the damn thing so we can get back to work."

    I then calmly proceeded to inform those who don't care about technical feasibility exactly what would happen, hour by hour

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    Typical politician thinks this way:

    "All things are possible if you have enough time; pass enough laws; hire enough consultants & sycophants; and spend plenty of other people's money."

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  If we haven't voted the technically incompetent out at this point, then I'd say we've identified the group of voters responsible for maintaining the time-honored tradition of learning the hard way.

  At a minimum, a Democracy needs competent voters. Everything else becomes rather irrelevant otherwise, as we're experiencing.

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    I know people fight the idea as elitist and wrong-think, but I would be interested in at least entertaining the idea of a simple ten question quizz before a vote. If a person can't answer a few simple questions about the issues on the ballot? Maybe we don't throw their vote out, but at least give it a lesser priority somehow.

    And no, I'm not talking about a god damned physics and calculus exam. Politics is stupid simple once you break down the issues and get past the money involved. Issues should matter. The

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      When it comes to life experience, the average 18-year old voter is an untrained monkey by comparison to the average tax-paying voter who's been running in that rat race for a decade or more.

      Would be a hell of a lot easier to raise the voting age to 21. Or even 25. Politics demands a bit of common sense derived from real life experience, and not that delusional shit they're selling on college campuses.

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        No. This "raise the voting age" bullshit is a Republican wet dream in this country, and I'd imagine a "conservative" wet dream elsewhere because it would stop progress dead. What do you do when the 18 year olds reach 21? Raise the age again?

        Which is why I think the idea of a test is less egregious than raising the voting age. Just because people disagree with your conclusions it doesn't mean they need excluded from the conversation.

        I'm between the boomers and the zoomers. I've felt the age divide pretty sev

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          No. I would hope they would grow a fucking brain and an ability to think for themselves by age 21, instead of listening to people who automatically assume that raising the voting age is some kind of "conservative wet dream". It's certainly a conservative thing alright, I'll give you that. But you should be asking yourself why is it that a LOT of liberals eventually mature into conservatives once they start earning real money they don't want to give away in the next social experiment? Why is it that lib

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            This is the second time in a week some borderline thinking has lead to someone believing I'm arguing from the position of being a youth myself just because I don't love conservatism. I'm almost fifty. Wrong assumption.

            "Kids" as you call them are smarter than you think. Again, disagreeing with conservative "values" like rolling back human rights and shitting on liberals isn't a sign of a lack of maturity so much as a sign that they haven't mentally declined to the point where they cling to the past and hope

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        I don't necessarily disagree with your points... But certainly, from the devil's advocate position, you can see that it's problematic to not give legal adults a say in governance that directly affects, and indeed, could directly target them?

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          Sorry, but even the devil's advocate position here is bullshit. Legal adults are prohibited from buying alcohol until age 21, and we generally don't rent cars to them either. I really don't think we need to go over the singular obvious reason for that (immaturity validated with statistical fact), but I can assure you it applies to politics as well.

          The 18-year old hasn't even escaped the spoiled comfort of a campus cry closet. As a taxpayer, I fucking DEMAND that ignorance gain a few years of experience a