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Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

 1 year ago
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Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk

Tell HN: Microsoft classifies own emails as junk
15 points by YellowTech 48 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments
While going through my Outlook junk folder, I noticed that nearly all my Azure related mails are classified as such.

These e-mails are all real and also sent by addresses like [email protected] with the source SMTP server being in a subdomain of PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.

How comes that Microsoft would not just whitelist their own domains on their own e-mail service?

The fact that Microsoft doesn't just whitelist their own domains speaks to their commitment to strict security measures and good engineering culture. Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
After failed Sears and Roebucks, I think Microsoft is the #2 company of all time for "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing."

It's notorious that they have a hard time replicating products that competitors make look simple: look how the Steam store really works for for games, or how Dropbox works so much better than Onedrive.

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Yes, I can't wrap my head around the fact that VS Code and Teams came out of the same company. That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".
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> That the same people who thought "it's a good idea to use CS theory to add a type system to Javascript" are the same people who thought "it's a good idea to put ads in the start menu".

The secret is that they aren't the same people.

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Isn't that just because it's an unfathomably huge company with a very broad range of products
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Sometimes I wonder if there is some kind of upside down "virtue signalling" going on.

Ads in the Start Menu might not make a lot of money but investors might be impressed that Microsoft is at least trying to make a few more cents here and there.

I wonder if Amazon treats employees so poorly not because this is good for business but because it helps Wall Street accept Amazon's loss-making habits (at least they aren't being generous with the help) and maybe convinces a few customers that Amazon is trying really hard to serve them well.

If customers are able to influence the content and recipient of these messages, they could use it for spam.
Is this not what you would want? What you classify as junk might be something someone else reads. But I would want any junk filter to be based on my usage.

In fact, the suggest that they should whitelist their own domains seems to be fairly monopolistic, something Microsoft has had to deal with in the past.

This seems appropriate and right, and not any indication of anything other than things work as they should.

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