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Can you help me make a mail rule to trash spam?

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Can you help me make a mail rule to trash spam?

Wildgift

macrumors 6502

Original poster

Sep 21, 2007
I am getting deluged with junk mail from Russia. The addresses all end with .reg.ru , and also have a reply to at [email protected] . I would like to have these automatically sent to trash, and not my junk folder.

I have tried to create rules, but none of them seem to work. I'd be VERY grateful if anyone could give me a rule to rid my junk box of this nonsense.

Thanks!!
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justmewhoelse

macrumors member
Apr 1, 2015
If using Apple Mail, have you tried something such as this? And with message content, is there a common, always in content word? Use that in the rule then.

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Wildgift

macrumors 6502

Original poster

Sep 21, 2007
Many thanks!!! However, it didn't work....
I can try "no longer" which is in all these.
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Fishrrman

macrumors Penryn
Feb 20, 2009 25,501 10,455
I know this doesn't solve your problem (putting .ru emails into trash), but wondering if it could make things just a bit easier:

Create a new mailbox named "russia".
It can be on the server, or on your Mac.

Now, set up a new rule that moves all mail containing ".ru" into this mailbox.

If it works, this segregates the ".ru" mail into its own folder.
It should then become easy to just open that folder, then hit "command-A" (for "select all"), then the delete key.

Again, I realize this isn't the perfect solution, but it separates the ".ru" emails from the "ordinary" junk mail and makes it a little easier to get rid of.

chown33

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2009 9,939 6,967 Beyond the pale
The order of rules matters. If the rule that moves items to your Junk mail folder comes before your new "Russia" rule, then the incoming mail will likely match the builtin Junk-mail rule and go into Junk. Make sure the "Russia" rule is before the Junk-mail rule.

When you say the new rule doesn't work, how are you testing this? Is it being applied to incoming emails, or are you testing it on emails already in your Junk-mail folder?

It may be useful to review the online User Guide for Mac Mail, so you know all the things involved with Mail rules:

Use rules to manage emails you receive in Mail on Mac

In Mail on your Mac, create and use rules that automatically move, delete, or otherwise handle incoming emails for you.

support.apple.com

Most email services also provide on-server rules. For example, if your email address receiving the .ru emails is an iCloud email address, you can make a rule on the server. See this thread:

Wildgift

macrumors 6502

Original poster

Sep 21, 2007
The order of rules matters. If the rule that moves items to your Junk mail folder comes before your new "Russia" rule, then the incoming mail will likely match the builtin Junk-mail rule and go into Junk. Make sure the "Russia" rule is before the Junk-mail rule.

When you say the new rule doesn't work, how are you testing this? Is it being applied to incoming emails, or are you testing it on emails already in your Junk-mail folder?

It may be useful to review the online User Guide for Mac Mail, so you know all the things involved with Mail rules:

Use rules to manage emails you receive in Mail on Mac

In Mail on your Mac, create and use rules that automatically move, delete, or otherwise handle incoming emails for you.

support.apple.com

Most email services also provide on-server rules. For example, if your email address receiving the .ru emails is an iCloud email address, you can make a rule on the server. See this thread:
Thanks, trying this now...

johny5

macrumors 6502a
Mar 31, 2007 UK
I too are receiving around 130 spam emails a day from .RU addresses. They appear to be randomised addresses like "[email protected]" with a reply to of "pro.reg.ru" so no amount of blocking works.
They all go straight to the spam folder but it's annoying that the mac is even downloading this. I forward all mails to [email protected] in the hope they might blacklist wherever theyre coming from.
I have also tried multiple rules to no avail, im guessing this might be because theyre flagged as spam from Apple anyway they go straight into the spam folder and rules wont be applied.
I would rather theyre deleted server side.

chown33

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2009 9,939 6,967 Beyond the pale
I too are receiving around 130 spam emails a day from .RU addresses. They appear to be randomised addresses like "[email protected]" with a reply to of "pro.reg.ru" so no amount of blocking works.
They all go straight to the spam folder but it's annoying that the mac is even downloading this. I forward all mails to [email protected] in the hope they might blacklist wherever theyre coming from.
I have also tried multiple rules to no avail, im guessing this might be because theyre flagged as spam from Apple anyway they go straight into the spam folder and rules wont be applied.
I would rather theyre deleted server side.
In order to delete them on the server side, you will need to setup a rule on the iCloud server.

The thread I linked to above shows how to do this:

rdgiraff

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2022
In order to delete them on the server side, you will need to setup a rule on the iCloud server.

The thread I linked to above shows how to do this:
This is a nice fix that worked for a while. I deleted the rule in the link above and tried to make it go to a Russia folder. That did not work, so I went back to the global iCloud rule using *.ru into the Trash box. Now, it is back to putting everything into my Archive folder. I am considering just getting rid of the .Mac email address and informing my contacts that the email address no longer exists. Apple has really failed on this one!!!
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chown33

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Staff member
Aug 9, 2009 9,939 6,967 Beyond the pale
This is a nice fix that worked for a while. I deleted the rule in the link above and tried to make it go to a Russia folder. That did not work, so I went back to the global iCloud rule using *.ru into the Trash box. Now, it is back to putting everything into my Archive folder. I am considering just getting rid of the .Mac email address and informing my contacts that the email address no longer exists. Apple has really failed on this one!!!
If it worked once, it should be possible to make it work again. To accomplish that, details are important, so we'll need to see exactly what rules you have on your iCloud Mail.

Please post a screenshot of your latest "ru filtering" rule, along with the list showing all your iCloud Mail rules.

As with the rules in the Mac's Mail.app, the order of iCloud Mail rules is significant.

Also remember that it may take 15 minutes or longer for changes to iCloud Mail rules to take effect. Until that happens, I don't know what might happen. It's possible that rules may work partly, or that only some rules work.

rdgiraff

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2022
If it worked once, it should be possible to make it work again. To accomplish that, details are important, so we'll need to see exactly what rules you have on your iCloud Mail.

Please post a screenshot of your latest "ru filtering" rule, along with the list showing all your iCloud Mail rules.

As with the rules in the Mac's Mail.app, the order of iCloud Mail rules is significant.

Also remember that it may take 15 minutes or longer for changes to iCloud Mail rules to take effect. Until that happens, I don't know what might happen. It's possible that rules may work partly, or that only some rules work.
I have 101 rules. How do I do a screen shot on those? It looks like there is only 7 per shot..so you want 13 more files?
See attached rule on *.ru. It is #1 on my list.

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MBAir2010

macrumors 601
May 30, 2018 4,928 4,780 sunny florida
I assmindely joined ESPN plus last month
what a waste of bandwidth!

and they will sent emails everyday, even the hidden emails no matter how you unsubscribe.
so adding a rule in mail and their Emil address to "move to trash" hopefully works in 2022.

chown33

Moderator
Staff member
Aug 9, 2009 9,939 6,967 Beyond the pale
I have 101 rules. How do I do a screen shot on those? It looks like there is only 7 per shot..so you want 13 more files?
See attached rule on *.ru. It is #1 on my list.
One screeshot showing the *.ru rule would be fine.

Do any of the other rules move a matching mail to Archive? If so, then maybe it's being triggered.

I just checked Apple's support page for iCloud email rules, and it says there can be up to 500 rules.

The screenshot of the *.ru rules looks ok, but check that there isn't a space or other character after the ".ru".

rdgiraff

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2022
One screeshot showing the *.ru rule would be fine.

Do any of the other rules move a matching mail to Archive? If so, then maybe it's being triggered.

I just checked Apple's support page for iCloud email rules, and it says there can be up to 500 rules.

The screenshot of the *.ru rules looks ok, but check that there isn't a space or other character after the ".ru".
I just deleted a few that went to Archive. My spacing looks fine. I will keep you posted. Thanks!!

rdgiraff

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2022
Update: Now the *.ru rule for emails to the Trash is now being directed to Junk, even though the rule is still telling them to go to Trash. Is someone at Apple overriding this? Also as an experiment, I decided to check the box that all emails be forwarded to my Gmail account and then have them then deleted from the iCloud server. None of that even happens. Gmail does a better job at filtering spam.

rodjam

macrumors newbie
Dec 13, 2008
I have been getting > 50 of these *.reg.ru messages per day for several weeks now. It appears that Apple is flagging these as junk at the server level as they automatically go to the Junk folder. My "solution" as it were to this problem now consists of setting macOS Mail.app to empty the Junk and Trash folders daily, and I just deleted the Mail app on both my iPhone and iPad. I've been moving away from using email for years now, and just having it on my Mac is fine. My personal email address is a @mac.com one I've used for 20 years now. I don't think I will completely abandon it, but Apple's seeming reluctance to simply blocking these phishing emails from .ru domains has me considering that. I've sent multiple of these to [email protected] and nothing has changed, of course. I doubt anyone even looks at the spam reports.

rdgiraff

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2022
I have been getting > 50 of these *.reg.ru messages per day for several weeks now. It appears that Apple is flagging these as junk at the server level as they automatically go to the Junk folder. My "solution" as it were to this problem now consists of setting macOS Mail.app to empty the Junk and Trash folders daily, and I just deleted the Mail app on both my iPhone and iPad. I've been moving away from using email for years now, and just having it on my Mac is fine. My personal email address is a @mac.com one I've used for 20 years now. I don't think I will completely abandon it, but Apple's seeming reluctance to simply blocking these phishing emails from .ru domains has me considering that. I've sent multiple of these to [email protected] and nothing has changed, of course. I doubt anyone even looks at the spam reports.
I would agree. Apple is routing everything to Junk and Trash. But that is not enough for me. Do you think that Apple could raise the bar and eliminating Spam? I am getting about 60 of the .ru mails daily. Gmail does a much better job at getting rid of this crap!!

HDFan

Contributor
Jun 30, 2007 4,636 1,736
You might try SpamSieve. Works well after you train it, although it works on websites not domains.

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