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Apple Releases Rapid Security Response Update for iOS 16.2 Beta Users

After the update has been installed, the system will report an updated version of iOS 16.2 (a), and tapping on the version in the About section of Settings will display information about your installed iOS version and the Rapid Security Response update, with the ability to remove the security update if desired.
Article Link: Apple Releases Rapid Security Response Update for iOS 16.2 Beta Users
vegetassj4
macrumors 6502a
Apple releases iOS 16.2a.1.02
Fixes an issue which caused some Apple devices to become unresponsive after certain rapid security responses when using Emergency SOS and a Bluetooth device simultaneously while touching the mmw antenna.
macduke
macrumors G5
Will Tisdale š
macrumors regular
adrianlondon
macrumors 601
I donāt think cellular data usage is going to be the main thought or concern here. Iām guessing that RSR is going to be portrayed / insinuated as a system to deliver whatever is needed per theory. I mean, the annual iOS updates are derided enough already as āplanned obsolescenceā. Let alone the point releases killing battery life or whatever. e.g. forum statements of, āIām never upgrading to iOS zxy because reason abcd!ā But now theyāre giving me no option? Just FORCING ME to accept the new update? Grr!I think RSR is something Apple should have developed long ago. A great additional feature would be to get cellular carriers to not have RSR updates count against data limits so that fewer people turn off RSR.
iObama
macrumors 6502a
kalafalas
macrumors 6502a
Yeah Iām surprised it requires a restart, whatās the point then? Guess itās *just* a restart and not a full install sequence but stillWasn't a big part of RSR not having to restart?
RSmith2023
macrumors 6502
The point was not having to wait for a full OS update to get security patches. I do not recall them saying no restart was required.Yeah Iām surprised it requires a restart, whatās the point then?
MrRom92
macrumors 6502
confirmed
macrumors regular
Yeah. This seems like the same thing as macOS Security Updates which were released separately from general macOS updates. Unless Iām mistaken, I believe Apple stopped releasing these separately for macOS, since Big Sur.Yeah Iām surprised it requires a restart, whatās the point then?
I donāt think itās a bad idea to have a separate approach for security releases, but I would prefer Apple be consistent with their approach.
now i see it
macrumors G3
They have no intention of ever doing that even if it is possible.Maybe one day, in the distant future, they'll also be able to pish out updates to apps such as Mail, Calendar etc. without requiring a whole new iOS install.
The main driver to entice users to upgrade to the next version of ios (which will slow down their phone) is to have rhe next version have upgrades to their built in software.
Want improvements to Mail? Upgrade the entire OS (and pay the performance hit.
The number one driver for people to buy a newer iPhone is a performance improvement that newer installed versions of iOS took away.
EmotionalSnow
macrumors 6502
addamas
macrumors 6502a
a) phone will restart on its own like damn Windows 10 with Office updates (2 times already I was kicked out of meeting I was leading and screen sharing š„²)
b) phone will ask me to restart?
I hope the second
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EmotionalSnow
macrumors 6502
Except even a little iOS update takes minutes to download and then even more time to install. This requires a five second restart. You could literally do it whenever you put your phone down and don't have to worry if you might need your phone in a few minutes.If you have to restart then this is functionally no different than a minor ios point update.
Jay Bly
macrumors regular
Agree would be coolMaybe one day, in the distant future, they'll also be able to pish out updates to apps such as Mail, Calendar etc. without requiring a whole new iOS install.
ChrisFromNEPA
macrumors newbie
EmotionalSnow
macrumors 6502
Probably the second but I could imagine they'll prompt you to install the Security Response more often whenever they think you won't use your phone for a few seconds.So if I get this setting on,
a) phone will restart on its own like damn Windows 10 with Office updates (2 times already I was kicked out of meeting I was leading and screen sharing š„²)
b) phone will ask me to restart?
I hope the second
EmotionalSnow
macrumors 6502
They are using it to fix security bugs, if that wasn't obvious from the description of the Security Response ...They need to rename it... Rapid SECURITY response, but they are using it as a rapid bugfixer? What?
Yebubbleman
macrumors 601
Yea, itās interesting decision.They have it all backwards. We should be able to remove the feature update/upgrade versions. We ought to not have any sort of need to remove security hotfixes.
Lounge vibes 05
macrumors 68020
Even small X.x.1 or X.X.2 updates usually require a 700 MB to one gigabyte download, a long verification process, and a full restart and install sequence which usually takes 7-10 minutes where your phone is completely unusable.If you have to restart then this is functionally no different than a minor ios point update.
These rapid security responses, at least this first one, literally only takes about five minutes to download, and a normal restart, which is like 20 seconds.
That means the entire time, your phone is only unusable for about 20 seconds.
Thats a pretty big difference between 10 minutes and 20 seconds.
It will more than likely do exactly what the auto update setting already does, and update your phone overnight.So if I get this setting on,
a) phone will restart on its own like damn Windows 10 with Office updates (2 times already I was kicked out of meeting I was leading and screen sharing š„²)
b) phone will ask me to restart?
I hope the second
Nope. Since RSRs are ārequiredā updates, Apple needs to ensure that companies and schools can remove an update the breaks something. And, since these are NOT subject to a beta cycle, there is no way to blame the application or the user.They have it all backwards. We should be able to remove the feature update/upgrade versions. We ought to not have any sort of need to remove security hotfixes.
It is also important to understand how these updates work compared to regular updates. In a regular update, a copy of the seal OS is made to RAM, the patches applied, and then the device is restarted. During the restart, the installer application copies the update copy of the OS from RAM back in to the sealed volume and signs it. The installer is the ONLY application allowed to write to the OS volume.
For RSRs, the patch is left in RAM and the OS knows to use the updated version. That is why the update is faster, no need to write back to the signed volume. I thought they could be applied without a restart, but apparently some updates may require a restart, which makes sense since some patches are probably kernel level.
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