Navy Says All UFO Videos Classified, Releasing Them 'Will Harm National Security...
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Navy Says All UFO Videos Classified, Releasing Them 'Will Harm National Security'
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... about saving face. Anything that makes the military look vulnerable would cause people to lose confidence in the military propaganda.
National security my ass.
by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09, 2022 @11:40PM (#62869235)
The reason is they're probably other US agency drones.
> remember ufos =/= extraterestials
For many, I think the most likely explanation are drones (or missiles) from other agencies.
Remember, the US alone has [17 independent Intelligence Agencies - only half of whom are under DoD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community). Most (if not all) have their own well funded classified drone programs with their own subcontractors.
If a classified drone belongs to any of:
* CIA
* CGI (coast guard intel under DHS)
* OICI (a DoE agency overseeing nukes)
* TFI (Treasury Department's terrorist agency)
* ONSI (Department of Justice's National Security Intelligence agency)
* I&A (Department of Homeland Security's Intel arm)
it would be a UFO to the DoD.
Because the way security clearances work, any given DoD budget requestor dude would have no "need to know" about the competing agencies programs. So all he would know is that it's Unidentified, it Flys, and it's an Object....... and that he needs a bigger budget to catch up.
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This is the most likely reason. If it was aliens we would've known already. After all, fear is a really useful tool for a politician to exploit.
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If exposure means that someone we know to have been in a position to know has publicly stated that some UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin, then that's happened already. More than once.
I reminds me of an article on here some years back that made the claim that no conspiracy theories could possibly be true because if they were, they'd have been exposed already. It completely overlooked the simple fact that if we know about the conspiracy, then it's already been exposed.
It's the flip side to the credulous
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Another probable reason is that it would reveal the capabilities of our planes, specifically the range of the cameras, the resolution, the color spectrum, refresh rate, ability to track, etc...
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I came here to say the same thing. If all the contact information is from the sensors on the intercept planes and on-board sensors from the ships, it might not be possible to release any data without showing exactly how detailed our sensors are.
Imagine the state patrol have a speed gun that tracks a car's speed, plus takes a photo of the car's license plate, the face of the driver for facial recognition, identifies the make, model, color, and unique accessories on the vehicle, and links into the state's ve
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Honest question. Wasn't AC posting disabled a few years ago? At least the option no longer appears for me. LOL
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Same here
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Only on mobile. I learned recently that AC posting is still available on desktop browsers.
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They probably couldn't figure out how to disable it, since Slashcode is written in old perl:)
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It's not available for me, and hasn't been for at least a year. Perhaps it's due to tracking-blocking features on my desktop?
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Also tactics, logistics, vehicle capabilities (which you partially covered), potentially weapons systems, the list goes on. I've worked on classified projects and I get why we can't disclose some stuff, even if the public is completely aware of some of them, Let's just say a popular US military helicopter (which I last worked on in 2012) - I mean, we all know its loadout, range and a bunch of other things (sorry, I forget what's public and what's classified), but what do you know of its head's up display an
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Some of it has been aliens and I already know that already. Lots of people know that already but they're either sworn to secrecy by military authority or slandered as crackpots or both.
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Thank god the aliens only interact with the US military.
What would we do if all those private scientists started finding evidence of them?-
They stay far away from anyone the public would actually listen to. They can time-travel as well, and they're not very competent about it but one trick they know how to do fairly well is undo any mistakes that actually critically expose them. One thing they've learned that regularly exposes them is making the mistake of contacting ethical scientists.
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So instead they only land in moonshineland and contact crackpots from hicksville.
A devilish, perfect plan.
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You joke, but if you rationally evaluate their technological capabilities (vast but not godlike, with a couple minor exceptions with regards to stealth and transport tech) and their intellectual capabilities (average to low at best) then you'd realize that people living out in the middle of nowhere, drunk on moonshine or whatever, are exactly the types of people most easy to prey on, and that's exactly why we see most of the abduction and eye-witness accounts from those regions, from those types of people.
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A civilization that is advanced enough for interstellar travel that actually wants to dominate a civilization that isn't will do so if they so please. The early colonists engaged with the natives and traded with them, and if they didn't want to trade, they just eliminated them. This is what would be expected from such a civilization. Barter with the local chieftain for resources and if they refuse, get rid of them and take what you want.
Actually, such a civilization, if out for conquest, would exactly abduc
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I said this before, and this is really important, so I'll say it again: THEY WERE ALREADY HERE. And there are a lot more of us now.
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... and they don't come for conquest. They come for sex tourism.
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Dude, you really have a problem with your rape fantasies. I'm outta here, if you need me, I'll be over in the shower.
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I know, I know. I remember seeing pictures in the Star and Guardian of US presidents walking hand in hand with some.
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Oddly, the funniest explanation.
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If it was aliens they would've already put us under intergalactic quarantine to avoid cultural contamination... from us to them.
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Yep. If it was our stuff then it'd almost certainly be under SAP. The other consideration is that our newer aircraft have amazing fidelity and other capabilities that we don't really want others to know about. I think OPSEC is the bigger concern here.
Source: am former navy pilot
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If the fidelity is so amazing, why are all the pictures of dots?
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Do you realize the fidelity required to accurately capture a dot so it doesn't have "the jaggies" when you zoom in 1000x?
If it's more like a dot with small protrusions, it takes a very accurate camera to get the protrusions to show accurately and precisely.
No wonder the government wants to keep their high-tech cameras under wraps.
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The expressed official fear that the huge superiority of USA new developments in aviation capabilities revealed is a threat to military security is the most cockeyed example of an excuse I have ever encountered. As long as the technology of these vast accomplishments is not revealed, the fact that US naval aviation has such huge superiority should be widely disseminated to ensure that no foreign power would dare to attack the USA in fear of instant frightful reprisal. In effect, keeping these superpowers a
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Yeah, right. And using that logic the US should instantly release full technical details of all its secret military projects in order to scare foreign powers.
You really have zero understanding of human nature.
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Human nature, so called, is heading most life on the planet, in a decade or two to a most curious WWIII and the end of civilization in in radioactive death or perhaps, as a happy alternative, massive global destruction of the planets destruction of life through global overheating, where no military superiorities will be of any use at all. Be careful where you place your trust.
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Who said anything about trust? I'm just telling it the way it is.
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Everybody is reasonably self satisfied as to his or her point of view is the way it is. As Korzybski nicely indicated, is is a rather elusive indication. The massive failures of the military culture in establishing any world security is a rather strong hint one should be quite uneasy as to its suggested alternatives.
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If it wasnt for NATO Putin would have reinvaded half of eastern europe by now so I'd re-evaluate your cliched pacifist beliefs if I were you. Your ideology assumes there'll never be a psychopath in charge of weapon of mass destruction. Good luck with that.
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Since the weapons of mass destruction are well established amongst military psychopaths as a useful tactic, your persuasion is somewhat out of date. That being a pacifist is indicated as unacceptable strikes me as most peculiar. Somehow the enthusiasm for killing people never attracted me.
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Ever met a world-class poker player who routinely laid all his cards on the table in the early rounds? Didn't think so.
As long as you can make the enemy think you almost certainly can wipe the floor with them if they attack you, you don't need to shout your capabilities from the mountain-tops. Nor should you.
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That a full knowledge of one's superiority should be kept secret is a rather amusing and not very useful tactic,
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Yeah, they're probably more worried that someone will notice the tracking cameras in the F-18 are potato quality.
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This story is whack because the Pentagon has already released some footage [militarytimes.com]. Claiming that all UFO videos are/must be classified is obvious horseshit, because they have already declassified some of them. We know, because we've seen them. So we can file that claim from the Navy under "obvious lie".
Your interpretation is also whack because of the videos we saw, MOST of them were trivially explainable as a sensor or lens artifact. The best explanation, i.e. the one that suits the available facts, is that they a
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The ones they know about or have an explanation for. If they don't know what they are or which agency they belong to, they might not even know that they aren't supposed to talk about them.
That would be counter productive. If these turn out to be DEA drug interdiction drones (for example), the Navy would look pretty stupid or incompetent claiming that they were lens flares. Your equipment is shit and now how can we trust you to defend us.
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No, what I'm talking about is the video footage they declassified where they say they don't know what it is, but it's obvious it's an artifact. We discussed it here when the crap was released. Once upon a time there would have been a related links section that would have had mostly a bunch of barely related shit, but probably would also have had a link to some relevant stories, maybe even that one. Probably not, though. It's too bad tagging never has really worked here, because I don't see what I want among
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No. We only know it's Unidentified, Flys and appears to be an Object. Lens flares and aperture artifacts have been mistaken as UFOs.
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Do Nazis hiding out on the dark side of the moon count as extra-terrestrials? - Asking for a friend.
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