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Microsoft Will End Support For Most Versions of Internet Explorer on June 15

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It's finally happening. Microsoft will be ending support for most versions of its Internet Explorer (IE) 11 browser on June 15. ZDNet: Microsoft announced more than a year ago that IE would be removed from most versions of Windows 10 this year and has spent months encouraging customers to get ready by proactively retiring the browser from their organizations. IE 11 will be retired for Windows 10 client SKUs (version 20H2 and later) and Windows 10 IoT (version 20H2 and later). Products not affected by this retirement include IE Mode in Edge; IE 11 desktop on Windows 8.1, Windows 7 (with Extended Security Updates), Windows Server LTSC (all versions), Windows Server 2022, Windows 10 client LTSC (all versions), Windows 10 IoT LTSC (all versions). The IE 11 desktop app is not available on Windows 11, as Edge is the default browser for Windows 11. IE Mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029 to give web developers eight years to modernize legacy apps and eventually remove the need for IE mode, officials have said. According to Net Applications, a web monitoring tool, Internet Explorer still has a market share of 5.21% on desktops and laptops, far behind Chrome at over 69%, to be sure, but still ahead of Apple's Safari, which commands 3.73% market share.

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    Considering the original edge was released in 2015, it probably past time to do this. Its the usual problem - lots of folks don't do the work to handle it being replaced until you actually start to pull the rug. Instead of delaying the inevitable, better to pull the rug sooner.

    • Just the ACK for the FP that says it better than I could. But my Subject was little better. Or maybe worse.

      (Or maybe this is really dancing on the grave of AC's absence? I would prefer to dance on Edge's grave, but I'm reading We Are Anonymous right now. Still no insight into the craziness... So I hope someone here will give away the ending? It is a fat book with small printing...)

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      You'd think so, but the government agency we work with is still using a Siebel-based system that requires IE, a decade after I warned them that sooner or later the plug would be pulled. Now we've had to transition to running the site under Edge in IE mode, which took a helluva lot of work to actually function, and there are still some things that feel a little off.

      My biggest fear at the moment is that the government will ride this one through until 2029, but rather than updating the version of Siebel their

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        their using

        Their using? What about MY using? That's what I want to know!

        Still bothers me that so many detail-oriented people (programmers) can't spell, or don't just know the difference between "their" and "they're". Or any other pair of homonyms.

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          Go back to cognitive therapy

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      There's a TON of software that uses internet explorer as a 'viewer' component for html (not even necessarily remote html, but as a viewer for reports, or internal help, or all kinds of stuff. I worked on an app 20 years ago that as one of its fringe requirements need to generated a simple order form that users could email or print out. It needed lines, and boxes, and a logo and some text, etc. The email was already done up a simple html template, so rather than do the screen and paper version using the wind

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        Oddly enough, you sound almost exactly like the fearmongers in 1999 talking about the TON of shit that relies on two-digit years too.

        And given the available alternatives, we should probably give this concern about as much attention.

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          That 20 year old app i mentioned is still in daily use around the continent.

          And as recently as a few weeks ago I bumped into another incident...

          Here Filemaker did make the change to Edge (Chromium) about a year ago now, (but there are still TONS of deployments of earlier versions out there) and it broke stuff all over the place... here's just one example of the breakage:

          https://www.seedcode.com/filem... [seedcode.com]

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        And devices with web interfaces that don't work with newer browsers. My Aruba S2500 switch could only be configured with IE8 running inside an XP virtual machine. Thankfully HP issued a firmware update.

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      The hell do you mean "about time"?

      It's about time that retirement announcements, include an actual fucking retirement. You're literally reading the IE zombie clause.

  • And no, I don't mean a dupe story on Slashdot. I mean I thought MS had killed Explorer a LONG time ago. More lives than the witch's cat? Ding dong, the witch is dead. PLEASE!

    "Fly my pretties!"

    Today's flying monkeys are called Edge, and I wish they would fly over it. I do NOT use that browser and I hope it never becomes my browser of ultimate and final resort.

    (Just going for funny, but I don't mind if I preempt a brain fart or three.)

    • And no, I don't mean a dupe story on Slashdot.

      But it was a dupe on Slashdot.... https://slashdot.org/story/21/... [slashdot.org]
      They've announced this date a long time ago.

  • Now if we could just get M$ to replace Windows with something better and end support for Windows that would be newsworthy. An old browser is the least of your concerns when using Windows today.

    • Now if we could just get M$ to replace Windows with something better...

      Why? You'd just bitch that it was bad because M$ made it

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          Windows 2000 was probably one of the most rock solid operating systems I ever worked with. XP, once it got to SP3, was nearly its equal stability. Windows 7 wasn't too bad, but got back to some degree to the tendency for things to just start breaking over time, and I had to go back to what I'd done back in the old Windows 3.1 and Windows 95/98 days of wiping the hard drive and reinstalling the OS ever six months or so. But while the Windows 10 kernel is probably every bit as stable as any kernel MS has ever

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            I can't actually remember the last time I saw Windows crash. Not saying I like Windows, but they've come a long way since Win98.

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        Oddly enough the Windows phones weren't bad. I bought one when retailers were dumping them for 80% off. The tile interface made sense on a small mobile screen and the OS itself was fast and responsive.

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      Actually, an old browser is perhaps the number one concern anyone should have, with regard to their personal computing device. Most attacks happen through the browser. If your browser is 100% secure, you're safe from most security threats

      And to be frank, Windows, in its default state and managed by a competent IT staff, is a very secure operating system. No, the average home user's install is not secure, that's not what I'm talking about here

  • So, they're going to disable it, and if you have an app that uses the IE DLL it's going to get more and more vulnerable over time. Unless you reinstall IE11.'

    How do you know if you have an app that uses the IE DLL? You don't.

    Except in the rarest of cases.

    Abandonware brushfires incoming.

    "If a customer has turned off the Internet Explorer feature but has third-party software that uses Internet Explorer runtime DLLs, how can the Internet Explorer runtime DLLs be updated?
    If customers need an update to the Inte

  • That's the part that irks me the most... this notion that some apps were built with reliance upon IE, and that somebody, somewhere actually thought that was an acceptable practice. If your website requires the IE rendering engine in order for some meaningful feature of the site to actually function, then you're developing for the internet wrong. Fixing that issue isn't called "modernizing legacy apps"; it's called fixing crap code that was bad right from the start.

    And yes... you could insert any other web

  • During the Justice Department's antitrust case against Microsoft in 1998-9, United States v. Microsoft Corporation, 253 F.3d 34 (D.C. Cir. 2001), lawyers for Microsoft seriously contended that Internet Explorer was an organic, integral part of the Windows operating system, without which it could not work properly.

    I am glad that in the intervening 23 years, the geniuses at Microsoft have managed to perform the necessary intricate surgery to separate the conjoined software systems while saving the life of at

  • Is Microsoft going to implement Sharepoint folder access in Edge?

    One can use Internet Explorer like File Explorer on Sharepoint sites, where you can deal with lots of files in Sharepoint all at once (in drag and drop fashion if you like). This is the only thing IE is used for in our organization. I would love to kill IE, but Sharepoint.


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