OnePlus 10 Pro will have slower charging speeds in the U.S.

A great way to kill your battery.

On 30/03/2022 at 02:59 PM, noobient said:

A great way to kill your battery.

I don't think this kills battery as badly as people would like you to believe, they have been increasing charging wattages for years and I haven't heard any widespread issues so far (except for the samsung fiasco).

And as per the charge cycles they do seem to last very close to regular charging methods

On 30/03/2022 at 02:59 PM, noobient said:

A great way to kill your battery.

Meh, im loving my 120w charger on my 11T Pro. From 10 to 100 in minutes

On 30/03/2022 at 03:03 PM, Ccl Ncc said:

I don't think this kills battery as badly as people would like you to believe, they have been increasing charging wattages for years and I haven't heard any widespread issues so far (except for the samsung fiasco).

And as per the charge cycles they do seem to last very close to regular charging methods

I've had issues with battery life span on fast charging. I used MagSafe on my iPhone 12 Pro Max and 10 months in my capacity was measured at 81% by the time I traded it in. If I wasn't getting the 13, I'd have opted for a warranty replacement. Back to slower wireless charging on my 13 now... i'll wait a little longer for a charge to keep my phone going all day in between.

On 30/03/2022 at 02:59 PM, noobient said:

A great way to kill your battery.

When you push too much current into the cells of a battery, as long as EACH cell's impedence is equal, each cell will charge at the same rate. But, if one cell has a different impedence than another, one cell can charge to fast. The result, is overheating the cell which can degrade performance of the entire battery.

Slow charging is better for the life of a battery, but, given the turnaround time people have with these crazy things, some being LESS than a year, up to two years, I'll stick with slow charging.

On 30/03/2022 at 02:59 PM, noobient said:

A great way to kill your battery.

I don't think it is a great thing for batteries either, but maybe that is the way to get people to buy new phones, kill the batteries quickly. My oppo came with a quick charger, but I don't use it and even if I did the cable I use would not allow it to charge quickly anyway as I use a magnetic cable.

But this article does show one of the problems with a low voltage mains system. So glad we have 240volts, we can plug anything in anywhere and don't need special sockets for products with high wattage. the only problem with our system are the plugs, don't ever tread on one, they flipping hurts.

On 30/03/2022 at 03:03 PM, Ccl Ncc said:

I don't think this kills battery as badly as people would like you to believe, they have been increasing charging wattages for years and I haven't heard any widespread issues so far (except for the samsung fiasco).

And as per the charge cycles they do seem to last very close to regular charging methods

MKBHD just did a video about this and whether or not fast charging makes a difference. Still leaves some questions to this, but definitely gave a good amount of insight to some of this for what it's worth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpqaQR4ikig

On 30/03/2022 at 02:59 PM, noobient said:

A great way to kill your battery.

These phones have multiple batteries inside that charge in parallel. The full 80W doesn't go into one big battery. The Oneplus 10 Pro has 2 batteries inside and each charge at 40W or 32.5W in the US.

I've had a phone for 3 years that charges at 65W and I use that every day to get to 100% during the time it takes to shower and the battery still gives me 1.5 days with 6-8h screen on time. With regular use I have 50% left on average at the end of the day.

It's fine.

Yeah it's the number of charge cycles that matter, fast charging isn't a problem.

imo OP's bigger issue is they're far too expensive now. The value compared to Samsung is disappearing especially if they give up on OxygenOS in the next gen.

On 30/03/2022 at 03:27 PM, reverseswing said:

Yeah it's the number of charge cycles that matter, fast charging isn't a problem.

imo OP's bigger issue is they're far too expensive now. The value compared to Samsung is disappearing especially if they give up on OxygenOS in the next gen.

They are merging Oxygen with Color Os or something like that? Color Os is not that bad to be honest. It is one of the closest to native Android apart from my old Nexus 4 that I have seen.
Price may be the thing, but then get a Oppo, same company.

OnePlus is a dead brand.

On 30/03/2022 at 04:20 PM, d5aqoëp said:

OnePlus is a dead brand.

Why do you say that? i have an Oppo which is produced by the same company, and it is a very good phone for the price. My only problem with it is the same with all phones these days, too large, silly screen ratio, hole in the screen for a camera and too many lenses on the back. But the phone itself is good. i presume oneplus is more or less the same, apart from the GUI.

On 30/03/2022 at 08:49 PM, ad47uk said:

Why do you say that? i have an Oppo which is produced by the same company, and it is a very good phone for the price. My only problem with it is the same with all phones these days, too large, silly screen ratio, hole in the screen for a camera and too many lenses on the back. But the phone itself is good. i presume oneplus is more or less the same, apart from the GUI.

OnePlus became famous for the following things:
1. Value for money (great specs at cheap price)
2. Just 1 or 2 phones per year (like Google Pixel)
2. Close to stock Android skin
3. Supported a huge passionate community who suggested and tested features.

OnePlus stopped doing all that, which is why its a dead brand.

Time for us outside of U.S to finally get something like this for once.

People are too impatient nowadays as once you reach a certain charge speed that's fast enough, beyond that is overkill and not worth potentially killing charge cycles of battery to get a bit faster charge rate, especially if your planning on keeping that phone for any length of time. because lets say it takes about 2 hours to charge a smart phone battery (which it's probably not even that if you don't let the battery charge get too low before recharging), even at say about a 30min charge time that will likely give you enough to last a while unless your constantly on the phone.

so while I have not payed too much attention to rechargeable lithium (I prefer NiMh when possible since it's more stable and easier to find high quality replacement batteries (i.e. Eneloop)) but I know if you go too fast charging NiMh it will kill the batteries life span at much less recharge cycles. like charging NiMh AA/AAA in 2 hours is totally okay (as it's considered a standard charge rate on my Enermax C9000 charger as you basically set charge rate to half of the battery capacity (2000mAh battery you would say C9000 charger to 1000mA charge rate) and it will pretty much charge in 2hrs time etc) but when you try to charge too quickly, like say 30 minutes or something in that ball park (maybe even 1hr if you do this routinely), it's going to start to have a legitimate negative effect on overall lifespan of the NiMh battery. like if someone was in a hurry you could probably get away with charging a NiMh battery a bit on the quicker side once in a while, but I would not make a habit of it. but on my C9000 charger using a standard 2000mAh rated Eneloop it would not be possible to charge it any quicker than 1hr since the limit of the charger is I think 2000mA charge rate. but on a AAA battery, which a AAA Eneloop is 800mAh capacity, one could really blast the battery with a really fast charge here since at 2000mA charge rate that would, to ball park it off the top of my head, take less than 30min to charge since about 1600mA charge rate should put a 800mAh capacity AAA at about 30min charge time.

but anyways... I do know that as a general guideline from what I read that you can extend the overall lifespan of a typical smartphone battery (rechargeable lithium) by not draining the battery to low before re-charging. like try not to let it get any lower than say about 20% at the lowest before re-charging. I heard it's even better if you can cycle between say roughly 20-80% charge (or thereabouts). but realistically, and more practically, just avoid draining your battery any lower than 20% before recharging. or, unless your on your phone a lot, just recharge it once a day as someones smart phone should last at least that long before getting too low unless they are constantly on their smart phone. but if one is, I would just plan on keeping a charger near-by so that you can charge it a little here and there to avoid it getting too low.