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Ask HN: Why does a busy man build a shed?

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Ask HN: Why does a busy man build a shed?

Ask HN: Why does a busy man build a shed? 32 points by p0d 3 hours ago | hide | past | favorite | 27 comments This is the time of year for pondering and learning. I am pondering why during 10 years of helping grow/maintain a busy Saas infrastructure I spent a great deal of my free time building two sheds in my garden. They have been a place to deal with stress, an office, and now a place to hangout. So why does someone create work for themself when they are already busy and is this wise?

>why does someone create work for themself

Your question only looks like a puzzle or paradox because the word "work" is overloaded with many meanings and it includes simultaneous connotations of negative "unpleasant chores" and positive "fulfilling efforts". (related concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation)

If those multiple meanings are not understood, one can twist themselves into rhetorical puzzles such as:

- if marriage is work, why do people get married? I thought people hated work.

- if raising kids is work, why do people have kids?

It's because the type of "work" above are activities where many people desire to expend the effort. There's a higher goal than any so-called "work" above.

Same idea as a home sewer that "works" for weeks on their own dresses and jackets while the factory sewer only thinks of needlework as a "working at a job". If one asks the hobby home sewer if making that jacket "took a lot of work", the hobbyist will say "yes" without any irony at all.

Because it's important to do something different. Using my hands to create, instead of just my mind, helps me clear my head and revisit other problems fresh. If all I ever use my mental energy on is my day job, my performance declines because I never stop thinking about my work and it's difficult to see other paths.

Also, it's fun?

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“I’ve got to get out of bed, get a hammer and a nail

Learn how to use my hands

Not just my head, I’ll think myself into jail

Now I know a refuge never grows

From a chin in a hand in a thoughtful pose

Got to till the earth if you want a rose“

— Hammer and a Nail, Indigo Girls

Many years ago, I read a book from a library whose title is lost to the mists of time.

It posited that we each have x amount of capacity for different things and success in life hinges on figuring out how to hit x consistently across all categories.

Someone whose capacity for reading is 5000 pages per week who has a job that requires 4000 pages of reading will come up with hobbies that provide another 1000 pages of reading. If crunch time requires 5000 pages per week temporarily, the hobby will disappear. If he gets a job requiring 5500 pages of reading, the hobby will disappear and he will start to burn out.

Building the shed filled a different bucket. It required different skills and activities that met some unmet need. Kind of like still having room for dessert after you are too full for more of the main course.

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That is a great explanation! Did the book explain what happens when we go beyond our capacity?

OP: Admit it, you want your friends to call you 'two sheds': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8xTGP_M8g

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I do enjoy that, yes and have never seen that video ;-)
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This capacity management reminds me of the innovation tokens from the Choose Boring Technology talk: http://boringtechnology.club/#17
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I find that so helpful, thank you. I think you scratched the itch in my head. I think my real concern is, "was the shed building time well spent?" I think it served it's purpose and helped me de-stress.

I am 50 now and need a new focus. As you mention, we have x capacity. I am hoping that my "this time 5 years ago photos" in 2027 are not pictures of sheds :-)

To have an agency, this would be something I did because I wanted to. Most of us lack sufficient agency in our day to day job. We don't wanna be in standups, meetings, or most work activities that are at least to us pointless and maybe are.
I've been spending my time wiring my house for ethernet. Sure, I could pay someone it would save me time and money but I've learnt a lot about my house and how to fix dry wall :-p. I've had to make 5 different Home Depot runs in the last two weeks cause I always discover something new.

I think a lot of us are type A, we can't sit still but also know our brains need to recoup and do something else. I tried to write some code but honestly I'd rather finish my ethernet project. Life is a marathon not a sprint. You gotta recharge sometimes and honestly you may learn something different that shapes how you think. Steve Jobs always said Calligraphy was the reason he thought about fonts on a GUI. Why the hell was he taking that class instead of hustling? :-p

It's completely wise. We aren't designed to just do one thing over and over. Life is so much more than building a SaaS or making money. You know we could go tomorrow right? Anything could happen and the future isn't guaranteed. Obviously, stay motivated and keep driving but sometimes you gotta replenish your gas tank and take care of your physical/mental health.

I've heard of a couple of CEOs, and a few freelancers now doing hands on things in their downtime.

IMHO, software development is a rollercoaster of exciting highs and lows. While woodwork, creating something tangible with your hands... it's something else. It's a perfectly balanced sweet continuous feeling of pure zen that you don't want to stop.

I believe it can make you more productive when you return to your main work.

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There are many parallels with dev when shed making. Creating something new, planning, tooling and problem solving. The advantage is getting to move around in the doing.
I imagine the same reason I spent 6 weeks this summer remodelling and fitting my own kitchen. The need to stand up, and do something creative with your hands. Learn new skills, and have something to admire and be proud of at the end. Something you created truly yourself that is tangible and understood by the people around you.
First caveat, I'm writing at the end of a boozy night so hope this isn't all rambling.

I think there is a confusion with working and relaxation in today's world.

We look at the world as work as the necessity and relaxing as the goal.

I think the Jordon Peterson line of 'purpose' is key.

'Work' is doing for someone else for a living. Purpose is doing for self. And building Saas infrastructure sounds like helping someone's else company, but that shed is for you.

For me I moved to a small farm a few years back and working from home. I'm always busy, like non-stop something to do between work and farm. I've had one proper holiday in 5 years as the farm consumes life outside work but the farm work is my purpose. While it's not 'relaxing' it's fulfilling and the moments I pause and take in the view while sweating away it completes you.

Now this next opinion I'm less confident in, but I think this ties in to above and there are certain personality types that need to do stuff vs relax. For me I don't do nothing well. It seems the dream but whenever I've tried it doesnt suit me. I need projects to be fulfilled. Sometimes when tired and stressed I wonder why I keep adding tasks to my life, but I'm more happy that way than going the other.

Anyway I feel I'm starting to ramble a little but I think it boils down to is adding work is not a negative, and more work is a positive within reasonable bounds and something you can feel achievement. The task is balancing between work for others purpose and your own is what matters.

I alternate very busy and sabbatical periods. When I am busy, I discipline myself to do relatively boring things. Then I have a lot of ideas of very cool things to do. Then I stop being busy and I am not interested in those anymore.

Why do I find those interesting only when I am busy? My hypothesis is that some unconscious part of me is trying to escape the discipline.

You get results you can see and explain. It's might be very important to revamp some library in your build system, but at the end of the day it doesn't do anything you can see, nor is it easy to explain to others.
Of interest, Winston Chuchill took up bricklaying while performing many other duties, became a member of his local bricklaying union, and build a bomb shelter in his back garden.

https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour/finest...

People need more variety in their daily activities than most modern jobs provide. Does your life otherwise provide "planning & decision-making exercise"? (Playing football or hockey would count, running or swimming laps would not.)
Some men deal with stress by playing with model trains, aircraft, cars, boats etc. Some men play with amateur radio (such as myself). Some men build sheds. Welcome to your new hobby!
Well for me, probably because I wanted to and it feels productive enough to break away from the other work that keeps me busy.

It’s also nice to have a low stakes hobby, I haven’t made a shed before but spent the last year getting into fixing things (automotive & household items) as well as home improvement.

(Highly recommend getting the basics of car repair, just being able to diagnose a problem will save you so much frustration)

I needed a distraction this holiday season so I built a basic wood shop in my basement.

I'm not a woodworker, craftsman, artisan, artist, etc. but tinkering in that shop has brought me more joy and peace than I've had in years.

As happy as I've been with some of the work I've produced on a computer it just isn't the same (to me).

Because you’re not supposed to engage in bikeshedding at work.

I’ll see myself out.

24 hours a day. Anyone telling you that you could work 24/7 building a startup or working for someone is lying to you. We are not robots. People need a break, something different to do.
Some call it Yin and Yang, others call it "Mens sana in corpore sano" [1], yet others see it as part of a striving towards becoming "Homo universalis" [2] but in the end it all comes down to the realisation that those hands and feet are just as essential as your head in making your way through this mortal coil. Feeding the one while atrophying the others is a sure-fire way to create problems along the line so pick up that axe and saw and get building. I bought a 17th century farm so I'm set for life in that respect, especially given that the place is heated using wood and I cook on wood as well.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath

I am unsure of the original source but is has been said that "If You want something done ask a busy person." Some say it was Benjamin Franklin.

I think there is truth in this statement and believe that asking my next door neighbor that has built two sheds in their back yard to help me with a job would work out far better than asking my next door neighbor on the other side that is always lounging on their deck with a drink in their hand.

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Very true. I have heard and seen this truth at work down through the years
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