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Intel Core i9-12900K spotted with unique retail packaging
Premium packaging for a flagship processor
By Daniel Sims October 21, 2021, 3:40 PM 29 comments
What just happened? A user on Reddit has posted photos of what they claim to be Intel's Alder Lake Core i9-12900K processor ahead of its official launch in the coming weeks. The user hasn't been able to benchmark it yet, but this at least confirms some interesting packaging.
Reddit user Seby9123 posted the the photos of the Core i9-12900K in the Intel subreddit, claiming to have acquired two of them for $610 (pre-tax) each, which would compare favorably to AMD's competing Ryzen 9 5950X, which is $725. The user claims to live in the United States.
Seby9123's unboxing of the 12900K reveals a sort of gold-colored case inside the standard Intel box, made to look like a semiconductor wafer, which houses the CPU itself. This seems to be the same packaging that leaked at the beginning of this month. They couldn't find any details like processor frequency or even core count on the box.
Seby9123 hasn't actually tried the processor out because they don't yet have a motherboard on which to install it. Once they acquire one, they plan to benchmark it against a Core i9-10900K and a 5950X, with both DDR4 and DDR5 RAM. Previous benchmarks have already shown Intel's upcoming Core i9 putting up a fight against the 5950X.
Early prices that have been posted for the 12900K have varied quite a bit. A leaker in September suggested it would be around $700, while a US retailer listed it at $605. Amazon Netherlands, on the other hand, listed it at $812.
Intel is expected to formally reveal the Alder Lake processors toward the end of this month, and release them in the beginning of November.
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October 21, 2021 3:48 PM
Sausagemeat
It’s going to be like $800 if it’s faster than the 5950X. Before Ryzen launched in 2017 the most expensive Intel i7 on the mainstream socket was the $300 7700K. Basically AMD has massively increased the pricing of mainstream grade CPUs. They don’t even really sell anything for less than $200, which used to be the price of an unlocked i5, or usually the second most expensive product in the stack in the Intel dominant pre-Ryzen era.
All that being said I expect AMD to slash prices on their 5000 series if the benchmarks for Alder lake are strong.
All that being said I expect AMD to slash prices on their 5000 series if the benchmarks for Alder lake are strong.
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October 21, 2021 3:51 PM
Squid Surprise
Well, the jury is still out on the CPU... but I really like the box!
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October 21, 2021 3:58 PM
Ludak021
The packaging has been tested and it uses 120W, which is 130W more than AMD packaging that actually returns power to grid. It is unclear whether any future updates will bring the fud level down, but for now it seems AMD is still in the lead.
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October 21, 2021 10:59 PM
hahahanoobs
Gotta pay for R&D and that Arizona fab!It’s going to be like $800 if it’s faster than the 5950X. Before Ryzen launched in 2017 the most expensive Intel i7 on the mainstream socket was the $300 7700K. Basically AMD has massively increased the pricing of mainstream grade CPUs. They don’t even really sell anything for less than $200, which used to be the price of an unlocked i5, or usually the second most expensive product in the stack in the Intel dominant pre-Ryzen era.
All that being said I expect AMD to slash prices on their 5000 series if the benchmarks for Alder lake are strong.
Sale war on Newegg.ca right now. AMD and Intel 10-35% off!!
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October 22, 2021 2:38 AMYenega
They are already selling for 600 us dollars, so yeah AMD will have to lower entire 5000 series and launch the zen3 refresh with 3d cache too, asap. Prices won't be affected too much by the chip situation, as Intel makes them without a 3rd party. AMD relies on TSMC and TSMC dictates prices and output + TSMC is under heavy pressure and it's mostly GPU's anyway, not CPU's that's the problem.It’s going to be like $800 if it’s faster than the 5950X. Before Ryzen launched in 2017 the most expensive Intel i7 on the mainstream socket was the $300 7700K. Basically AMD has massively increased the pricing of mainstream grade CPUs. They don’t even really sell anything for less than $200, which used to be the price of an unlocked i5, or usually the second most expensive product in the stack in the Intel dominant pre-Ryzen era.
All that being said I expect AMD to slash prices on their 5000 series if the benchmarks for Alder lake are strong.
The i7-12700K should deliver pretty much identical gaming performance and single thread performance is 25-33% faster than Ryzen 5000 series. (33% at 5.2 GHz and 25% at stock).
I look forward to see if going i9 over i7 is actually going to increase performance outside of synthetic testing (cinebench etc), when they are clocked identical. Only difference is 4 efficiency cores.
October 22, 2021 2:44 AM
Dimitrios
If I buy this CPU box what motherboard box will look good with it? Will it be glossy? Will it come from 100% recycled material?
Will it have that new cardboard smell?
Will it have that new cardboard smell?
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October 22, 2021 3:38 AM
Crinkles
Almost like this is unknown information, collectors will pay a lot to further their CPU package hobby.
[link] Brand New $200.00 or Best Offer +$12.22 shipping
Xeon there, but get an I9 package for $39.99
[link] Brand New $200.00 or Best Offer +$12.22 shipping
Xeon there, but get an I9 package for $39.99
October 22, 2021 6:12 AMDaniele 00
lol you made me laught there xD. (The reasons of the Cpu increased prices are elsewhere.)Basically AMD has massively increased the pricing of mainstream grade CPUs.
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That's for a 4 core CPU. AMD took Intel's top of the line 1000$ CPU and gave it for 4-500$ to consumers.It’s going to be like $800 if it’s faster than the 5950X. Before Ryzen launched in 2017 the most expensive Intel i7 on the mainstream socket was the $300 7700K. Basically AMD has massively increased the pricing of mainstream grade CPUs. They don’t even really sell anything for less than $200, which used to be the price of an unlocked i5, or usually the second most expensive product in the stack in the Intel dominant pre-Ryzen era.
All that being said I expect AMD to slash prices on their 5000 series if the benchmarks for Alder lake are strong.
Without AMD you would still be stuck with expensive 4 core CPUs.
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October 22, 2021 9:09 AMSquid Surprise
I'd like to think we'd be getting 6-core for about $2,000 by nowThat for a 4 core CPU. AMD took intel's top of the line 1000$ cpu and gave it for 4-500$ to consumers.
Without AMD you would still be stuck with expensive 4 core cpus
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October 22, 2021 10:09 AMSausagemeat
Care to divulge your opinion? It is a fact that AMD increased their prices. The 5000 series had a massive markup. But you believe differently?lol you made me laught there xD. (The reasons of the Cpu increased prices are elsewhere.)
October 22, 2021 10:13 AMSausagemeat
If you think it’s ok for AMD to charge $750 for a consumer grade part because it’s got 16 cores you would applaud any company delivering say 32 cores for $1250?That's for a 4 core CPU. AMD took Intel's top of the line 1000$ CPU and gave it for 4-500$ to consumers.
Without AMD you would still be stuck with expensive 4 core CPUs.
So what happened to being able to buy a modern consumer grade CPU for $200-$300? Or will you let AMD and Intel brainwash you out of thousands of dollars? Core count is just a number. And having lots of cores isn’t expensive. There are cheap mobile CPUs out there with 8 cores.
At the end of the day we pay more now. So what if we got more cores, we would have got them anyway.
October 22, 2021 10:38 AMGuberian
The gold packaging reminds me of the foil that they used on the Apollo space program lander.
Your thinking is not correct. You have to compare with what came before.If you think it’s ok for AMD to charge $750 for a consumer grade part because it’s got 16 cores you would applaud any company delivering say 32 cores for $1250?
So what happened to being able to buy a modern consumer grade CPU for $200-$300? Or will you let AMD and Intel brainwash you out of thousands of dollars? Core count is just a number. And having lots of cores isn’t expensive. There are cheap mobile CPUs out there with 8 cores.
At the end of the day we pay more now. So what if we got more cores, we would have got them anyway.
Yes, the 5000 series saw a markup of about 50$ at launch which nobody was happy about. But you are not talking about the 5000 series, you are talking about the price in general of CPUs since Ryzen came out.
Ryzen brought a HUGE decrease in prices for high core counts. This is a known fact. Intel doesn't even make new workstation CPUs because AMD destroyed the high core count market (value and performance wise) and brought everything down to consumer level pricing.
In the end you pay 300$ for much more than a simple 4 core CPU. The 8 core 5700G is 325$ on Amazon. The 5800X and the 11700K are both around 380$. The core 7700K launched with a retail price of 330-350$ (a list price of 305$).
Considering the 14nm issues Intel had, you would at most see 6 core CPUs for consumers by 2021 if AMD didn't release Ryzen. Intel would just delay things until 10nm was "ready".
You can thank AMD for bringing you cheap high core count CPUs. Competition helped you get several times the performance for the same price in just a few short years (almost 3x the MT performance at the 7700k price range).
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What's the catchphrase for this one? ALL THAT GLISTENS IS NOT GOLD? -
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October 23, 2021 7:23 PMDimitrios
True words, thank you!That's for a 4 core CPU. AMD took Intel's top of the line 1000$ CPU and gave it for 4-500$ to consumers.
Without AMD you would still be stuck with expensive 4 core CPUs.
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October 24, 2021 2:26 AM
captaincranky
Assuming clock speeds are the same, it would behoove all of us, to investigate the "IPC" numbers.The i7-12700K should deliver pretty much identical gaming performance and single thread performance is 25-33% faster than Ryzen 5000 series. (33% at 5.2 GHz and 25% at stock).
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October 24, 2021 8:59 AM
Reehahs
All that packaging is going straight to the bin, what's the point?
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October 24, 2021 9:05 AMcaptaincranky
Dude, isn't it obvious? In case it's not not, this should clear it up for you:All that packaging is going straight to the bin, what's the point?
For those who don't know, "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor", is a mnemonic for the spaces on the G clef sheet music notation.
October 24, 2021 9:57 AMSausagemeat
Completely agreed. Although the article doesn’t state what the materials used are. If it’s all cardboard and foil then it’s a lot better than using plastic.All that packaging is going straight to the bin, what's the point?
Personally I wish journalists wouldn’t cover it. That way maybe these companies will stop wasting resources on packaging. But as it is they don’t even call it out. Those threadripper boxes are 99% plastic and 1% CPU. It was a farce.
I often wonder if il ever bump into a threadripper or an i9 retail box whilst underwater. Or if my great great grandkids will…
October 24, 2021 10:06 AMSausagemeat
I am correct. Your thinking is incorrect. We pay much more for CPUs now than we did in 2017. There was a bigger than $50 price hike for the 5000 series. It was $50 more expensive than the 3000XT series, which in turn was more than $50 more expensive than the original prices of the 3000 series.Your thinking is not correct. You have to compare with what came before.
Yes, the 5000 series saw a markup of about 50$ at launch which nobody was happy about. But you are not talking about the 5000 series, you are talking about the price in general of CPUs since Ryzen came out.
Ryzen brought a HUGE decrease in prices for high core counts. This is a known fact. Intel doesn't even make new workstation CPUs because AMD destroyed the high core count market (value and performance wise) and brought everything down to consumer level pricing.
In the end you pay 300$ for much more than a simple 4 core CPU. The 8 core 5700G is 325$ on Amazon. The 5800X and the 11700K are both around 380$. The core 7700K launched with a retail price of 330-350$ (a list price of 305$).
Considering the 14nm issues Intel had, you would at most see 6 core CPUs for consumers by 2021 if AMD didn't release Ryzen. Intel would just delay things until 10nm was "ready".
You can thank AMD for bringing you cheap high core count CPUs. Competition helped you get several times the performance for the same price in just a few short years (almost 3x the MT performance at the 7700k price range).
Both companies have two tiers, AMD has Ryzen and TR. both cost more than Intel charged for their tiers by more than double. Intels most expensive i9 HEDT came in at less than half the price of the 64 core 3990X.
We would have had 6 cores from Intel in 2019 at the latest had Ryzen not arrived. It’s incorrect and delisional to believe that AMD forced Intels hand and that we would not have more than 4 cores by now. Intels 6 and 8 core parts would have been in development most likely before FX released, which were of course quad core parts falsely advertised as 8 cores (tut tut AMD).
The fact is that AMD are driving prices higher than Intel ever did. Can you blame them, they spend 90% if the time with an inferior product to Intel and they want to capitalise on this short period that they will are ahead. The last time AMD were ahead of Intel was 16 years ago!
If you would like to know more DM me, I’d be more than happy to educate you further about this market.
October 24, 2021 10:10 AMcaptaincranky
It's probably plasticized cardboard. That way, you can chop down trees, and screw up the environment with plastics simultaneously.Completely agreed. Although the article doesn’t state what the materials used are. If it’s all cardboard and foil then it’s a lot better than using plastic.
It's like, "killing two birds with one chainsaw".
And yet all facts point towards what I said. I don't get how you can be so wrong and yet so convinced that you are right. Are you incapable of doing a simple google search? Or are you just trolling me with some elaborate prank?I am correct. Your thinking is incorrect. We pay much more for CPUs now than we did in 2017. There was a bigger than $50 price hike for the 5000 series. It was $50 more expensive than the 3000XT series, which in turn was more than $50 more expensive than the original prices of the 3000 series.
Both companies have two tiers, AMD has Ryzen and TR. both cost more than Intel charged for their tiers by more than double. Intels most expensive i9 HEDT came in at less than half the price of the 64 core 3990X.
We would have had 6 cores from Intel in 2019 at the latest had Ryzen not arrived. It’s incorrect and delisional to believe that AMD forced Intels hand and that we would not have more than 4 cores by now. Intels 6 and 8 core parts would have been in development most likely before FX released, which were of course quad core parts falsely advertised as 8 cores (tut tut AMD).
The fact is that AMD are driving prices higher than Intel ever did. Can you blame them, they spend 90% if the time with an inferior product to Intel and they want to capitalise on this short period that they will are ahead. The last time AMD were ahead of Intel was 16 years ago!
If you would like to know more DM me, I’d be more than happy to educate you further about this market.
For example, the 1700x had an MSRP of 400$, the 2700x had an MSRP of 329$ and the 3700x had an MSRP of 329$. --> this simple google search pretty much invalidates everything you wrote.
Another thing wrong you wrote which is easy to disprove: the most expensive HEDT Intel i9 CPU came in at 2000$ and it was crap (i9 9980xe, 18 cores for 2000$). 3rd gen Threadripper pretty much ripped Intel a new one and even after cutting the prices in half (i9 10980xe, 18 cores for 1000$), Intel still lost in terms of value/$ against AMD (it was competing with the cheaper R9 3950x instead of TR).
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October 24, 2021 11:47 AMSausagemeat
Have you ever used a chainsaw? They are unwieldy, you couldn’t kill a bird with one, they’re too nimble. Maybe a cornered Turkey?It's probably plasticized cardboard. That way, you can chop down trees, and screw up the environment with plastics simultaneously.
It's like, "killing two birds with one chainsaw".
October 24, 2021 12:48 PMcaptaincranky
Dude, the "bird" was a metaphor for a tree. When posting, I always favor outrageous over accuracy..Have you ever used a chainsaw? They are unwieldy, you couldn’t kill a bird with one, they’re too nimble. Maybe a cornered Turkey?
In reality, that post was both outrageous and accurate. You probably would kill a couple of birds if you chopped down the tree they lived in. I think the ecologically minded call it, "loss of habitat"..
Anyhoo, even I know it would be damned near impossible to kill a bird with a chainsaw directly. Which is why I always feed a few of the stray cats in my neighborhood. You just keep them healthy enough to hunt, and all of a sudden, you stop waking up to pigeon crap on your windscreen.
The only avian species here in, "da hood", are English sparrows, starlings, and pigeons. None of the foregoing are protected. In fact (IIRC), starlings are considered an "invasive species"..
Although, I do see a crow from time to time. If he, (or she), ever comes back, I think I'll name it "Brandon".
ATTENTION: No actual "song birds" or endangered species were harmed in the making of this post
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October 24, 2021 1:09 PMSausagemeat
Come on man, we have herons. Have you not seen the animals of farthing wood?The only avian species here in, "da hood", are English sparrows, starlings, and pigeons. None of the foregoing are protected. In fact (IIRC), starlings are considered an "invasive species"..
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October 24, 2021 1:24 PMcaptaincranky
Is that anywhere bear Sherwood forest?Come on man, we have herons. Have you not seen the animals of farthing wood?
I have seen herons though, There's a small federal wildlife refuge right, "across the street", from PHL There are red tails there as well. They're fairly efficient in keeping pigeons and seagulls out of the jet intakes..
I haven't heard of any bird strike accidents happen there, ever. (Which not to say nobody's ever lost an engine on takeoff, I just never heard about it).
I can say with conviction, nobody's ever drilled the holiday inn right outside the airport, with a DC-10. I'm sure then local news would have grabbed that and run with it for days, if not weeks.
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