India Crosses the Milestone of 1 Billion COVID-19 Vaccinations

Posted by msmash

on Friday October 22, 2021 @11:33AM from the moving-forward dept.

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  It's nice to see good news every once in a while.
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      Pandemic [wikipedia.org]: A pandemic (from Greek , pan, "all" and , demos, "local people" the 'crowd') is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of individuals.

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        You and your silly definitions and facts. Next thing you will say is that a virus can be infectious. We all know that is just nonsense.**

        **yes that was sarcasm

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        > There's a pandemic of mental retardation going on as well.

        Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity

        https://youtu.be/ww47bR86wSc [youtu.be]

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            As opposed to the millions that died. And as we all know death is completely reversible.

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              Just under 1% of people die every year, and about 1% of new people arrive to take their place each year.
              This results in a steady population in the US of about 330 million people.

              1% of 330M is about 3.3M. Roughly 2.4-3M people die on any given year.

              Millions died in 2020, more actually. But that is common for any given year. Certainly there weren't a million extra deaths in 2020 as that would put us in the 4 million territory.

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    Is that really a fair statement when the vaccines they've been using are Covishield, Covaxin and Sputnik V?

    • Re: Well done, India

      Covidshield aka astrazeneca but not produced for superior race of better people.

• India can handle itself but many 3rd-world nations simply can't get supply of vaccines. Meanwhile some unseemly Americans are bragging about getting a third covid shot while many people who want them around the world can't get even one. It's not a good look.

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    Americans are bragging about getting a third covid shot while many people who want them around the world can't get even one.

    It's generally not a zero sum game. Many 3rd world countries simply don't have the infrastructure to store and distribute vaccines even if shiploads arrived at their docks/borders.

    While our military can help with such tasks, many countries are not comfortable with US soldiers lurking around their land.

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      they shouldn't worry too much unless they have an exploitable natural resource that a well connected US company wants.

• It's "vaccinated".

  The two terms mean different things. Immunized means the drug confers lifelong immunity from infection, so you only need it basically once (or once every few decades). Think measles shot.

  Vaccinated means the shot wears off eventually and you have to keep getting new ones. Think seasonal flu.

  That's the rough situation.

  All covid vaccines so far wear off, so you get vaccinated with them, not immunised.

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    > All covid vaccines so far wear off, so you get vaccinated with them, not immunized.

    So if you're vaccinated, you need to get revaccinated every 6 months to top off protection.

    But if you have natural immunity, you get sick every 16 months to top off protection.

    https://thehill.com/changing-a... [thehill.com]

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      What you imply by using that phrasing is not really what the article says.
      
      Quote from the article:

      The study determined that natural immunity is somewhat short, and in a model where everyone has either been infected with COVID-19 or vaccinated against it, those who are unvaccinated can expect to be reinfected with the coronavirus roughly every 16-17 months.

      There's no statement about the vaccinated.
      So what does the study say about vaccinated people? Let's take a look at the actual paper: https://www.ncbi.n [nih.gov]

• About 75% of India's total eligible adult population have received at least one dose, while around 30% are fully immunized.

  "Fully immunized" is a phrase full of expectations that aren't being realized. Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance". To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.

  Additionally, different vaccines have different recommended dosages. Some are one dose, the most popular require two. Although at least one now recommends three. There may be a need for annual boosters.

  So the correct phrasing would be "have received all recommended doses" of the vaccine in use.

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    Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance".

    
    
    You and the poster a few posts above you should get your stories straight. They were parsing the difference being being vaccinated and being immunized. According to them, immunization provides full immunity. You cannot contract whatever. You are saying the opposite.

    
    
    To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.

    
    
    The morons will find any excuse regardless of the fac

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    The goal is to educate, not cater to morons who don't understand the difference between immunization and actually being immune. The anti-vax people don't need ammunition. They'll just make up bullshit on their own. The people on the fringe... well they are the ones still open to the idea of learning and are likely receptive to the idea of "fully immunized" being a definition related to a drug, not a declaration of your body's ability to combat a virus.

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    "Fully immunized" is a phrase full of expectations that aren't being realized. Vaccines do not provide "full immunity", just "improved immunity" or "improved resistance". To say otherwise gives the anti-vax people ammunition when breakthrough cases occur.

    It's not a binary. To the degree that vaccines are shown less effective or less durable, anti-vaxxers have a stronger argument against mandates - especially if their personal risk is small due to demographics / natural immunity.

    So far it looks like lasting

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    Better phrasing would be "fully vaccinated" which can always be amended to include "with a booster".

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    Totally agree. Many people think one is enough, thinking in terms of old style vaccines, but this is a different virus and a different kind of a vaccine.