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Microsoft debunks rumors of being forced to use Duracell batteries in Xbox contr...

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Criticism over the brand of batteries provided? Must be from the perpetually outraged when they're having a slower than usual day

Duracells are fine. Not sure why the brand of an included battery matters as long as it isn't really bad. I personally prefer Eneloop.

This is only a "issue" because console wars. The fact Sony uses internal batteries for its controllers somehow means that MS using AA batteries as a option for its own is a negative. Because suddenly having options is bad.

This is only a "issue" because console wars. The fact Sony uses internal batteries for its controllers somehow means that MS using AA batteries as a option for its own is a negative. Because suddenly having options is bad.

It's actually one decision I agree with Microsoft on. I support removable batteries in controllers almost more than I do in phones.

I've had to replace my whole PS4 controller a couple times because the battery cell died in it completely. The controller hardware is still completely fine; I hate having to replace a whole controller and spend $60+ for a new one instead of just swapping the batteries out.

Oddly enough the only wireless controller with a built in battery that I was ever truly satisfied with was the Wii U Pro controller. Was well built and that battery would last months before having to be charged most the time. Haven't had any issues with the battery cell dying either like I've had with the DS4 controller.

/rant

This is only a "issue" because console wars. The fact Sony uses internal batteries for its controllers somehow means that MS using AA batteries as a option for its own is a negative. Because suddenly having options is bad.

It's actually one decision I agree with Microsoft on. I support removable batteries in controllers almost more than I do in phones.

I've had to replace my whole PS4 controller a couple times because the battery cell died in it completely. The controller hardware is still completely fine; I hate having to replace a whole controller and spend $60+ for a new one instead of just swapping the batteries out.

Oddly enough the only wireless controller with a built in battery that I was ever truly satisfied with was the Wii U Pro controller. Was well built and that battery would last months before having to be charged most the time. Haven't had any issues with the battery cell dying either like I've had with the DS4 controller.

/rant

Don't buy a new controller! The batteries are easily replaced with nothing more needed than a screwdriver and an eBay account.

"In response to this statement, Microsoft strongly denied the allegation"
Lets break this down to see why this is newsworthy.

What is the allegation here?
"That MS use batteries from one supplier and that they have an agreement because they need batteries"

Why is it a problem?
It's not.

Why did some people get worked up about it?
They misinterpreted "bundling batteries from a particular manufacture" as "YOU MUST ONLY USE THIS MANUFACTURERS BATTERIES OR ELSE IT WILL EXPLODE AND THE COMMIES WILL EAT YOUR FACE"

What does this teach us?
Some people have learned to read, however still haven't learned comprehension, yet these people are still allowed to participate in society (or even become POTUS).

So why is this news worthy?
Slow tech news day.

Some people have learned to read, however still haven't learned comprehension

It has ever been thus.

The bell curve of intelligence will always favour the less equipped with numerical supremacy

"In response to this statement, Microsoft strongly denied the allegation"
Lets break this down to see why this is newsworthy.

What is the allegation here?
"That MS use batteries from one supplier and that they have an agreement because they need batteries"

Why is it a problem?
It's not.

Why did some people get worked up about it?
They misinterpreted "bundling batteries from a particular manufacture" as "YOU MUST ONLY USE THIS MANUFACTURERS BATTERIES OR ELSE IT WILL EXPLODE AND THE COMMIES WILL EAT YOUR FACE"

What does this teach us?
Some people have learned to read, however still haven't learned comprehension, yet these people are still allowed to participate in society (or even become POTUS).

So why is this news worthy?
Slow tech news day.

The allegation is a bit more than that, I'll be quoting the original Stealth Optional article which started the rumor below. This is the statement that Microsoft debunked/countered:

"Ever since 2006’s PS3 debut, consumers have become used to controllers being charged by USB. While every other gaming device since has embraced the rechargeable present, 14 years on, Microsoft has clung stubbornly to those chunky ‘90s charge sticks.

The question for many is, why? This ye olde battery strategy has, of course, been a great way for Microsoft to make more cash by selling Xbox players rechargeable battery packs.

Yet aside from this obvious moneymaker, the default support for AA batteries has always seemed to be an uncharacteristically old-fashioned move from a forward-thinking company.

Now, Stealth Optional has uncovered the real reason behind Xbox’s eyebrow-raising loyalty to a dying industry…"

"In response to this statement, Microsoft strongly denied the allegation"
Lets break this down to see why this is newsworthy.

What is the allegation here?
"That MS use batteries from one supplier and that they have an agreement because they need batteries"

Why is it a problem?
It's not.

Why did some people get worked up about it?
They misinterpreted "bundling batteries from a particular manufacture" as "YOU MUST ONLY USE THIS MANUFACTURERS BATTERIES OR ELSE IT WILL EXPLODE AND THE COMMIES WILL EAT YOUR FACE"

What does this teach us?
Some people have learned to read, however still haven't learned comprehension, yet these people are still allowed to participate in society (or even become POTUS).

So why is this news worthy?
Slow tech news day.

The allegation is a bit more than that, I'll be quoting the original Stealth Optional article which started the rumor below. This is the statement that Microsoft debunked/countered:

"Ever since 2006’s PS3 debut, consumers have become used to controllers being charged by USB. While every other gaming device since has embraced the rechargeable present, 14 years on, Microsoft has clung stubbornly to those chunky ‘90s charge sticks.

The question for many is, why? This ye olde battery strategy has, of course, been a great way for Microsoft to make more cash by selling Xbox players rechargeable battery packs.

Yet aside from this obvious moneymaker, the default support for AA batteries has always seemed to be an uncharacteristically old-fashioned move from a forward-thinking company.

Now, Stealth Optional has uncovered the real reason behind Xbox’s eyebrow-raising loyalty to a dying industry…"

But MS isn't disputing that they have an agreement with Duracell in any way shape or form. All they're saying is "we intentionally offer people a choice."

You can offer people a choice whilst still having an agreement with Duracell to stick a couple of their batteries in with each controller/console.

"In response to this statement, Microsoft strongly denied the allegation"
Lets break this down to see why this is newsworthy.

What is the allegation here?
"That MS use batteries from one supplier and that they have an agreement because they need batteries"

Why is it a problem?
It's not.

Why did some people get worked up about it?
They misinterpreted "bundling batteries from a particular manufacture" as "YOU MUST ONLY USE THIS MANUFACTURERS BATTERIES OR ELSE IT WILL EXPLODE AND THE COMMIES WILL EAT YOUR FACE"

What does this teach us?
Some people have learned to read, however still haven't learned comprehension, yet these people are still allowed to participate in society (or even become POTUS).

So why is this news worthy?
Slow tech news day.

The allegation is a bit more than that, I'll be quoting the original Stealth Optional article which started the rumor below. This is the statement that Microsoft debunked/countered:

"Ever since 2006’s PS3 debut, consumers have become used to controllers being charged by USB. While every other gaming device since has embraced the rechargeable present, 14 years on, Microsoft has clung stubbornly to those chunky ‘90s charge sticks.

The question for many is, why? This ye olde battery strategy has, of course, been a great way for Microsoft to make more cash by selling Xbox players rechargeable battery packs.

Yet aside from this obvious moneymaker, the default support for AA batteries has always seemed to be an uncharacteristically old-fashioned move from a forward-thinking company.

Now, Stealth Optional has uncovered the real reason behind Xbox’s eyebrow-raising loyalty to a dying industry…"

I'll take using Eneloops over Sony's situation any day. At least I can go a full week of 3 hours/day gaming on a single charge. How long is a charge on a PS controller? 5 hours?

Microsoft didn't debunk anything. The allegation was there was an agreement between them and Duracell for Duracell to supply the batteries included with the controllers, not that that's particularly newsworthy. Microsoft's "rebuttal" says consumers are free to use any battery brand they like which, uh, wasn't the claim.

Maybe someone was claiming that only Duracell batteries work in the controllers or something, which would make MS's rebuttal make sense but as it stands it really makes none.

Microsoft didn't debunk anything. The allegation was there was an agreement between them and Duracell for Duracell to supply the batteries included with the controllers, not that that's particularly newsworthy. Microsoft's "rebuttal" says consumers are free to use any battery brand they like which, uh, wasn't the claim.

Maybe someone was claiming that only Duracell batteries work in the controllers or something, which would make MS's rebuttal make sense but as it stands it really makes none.

Exactly this. Wth. Ms did not say they Don't have a long term agreement with duracell at all. In fact the way they relied - they all but confirmed it default_wink.png

Microsoft didn't debunk anything. The allegation was there was an agreement between them and Duracell for Duracell to supply the batteries included with the controllers, not that that's particularly newsworthy. Microsoft's "rebuttal" says consumers are free to use any battery brand they like which, uh, wasn't the claim.

Maybe someone was claiming that only Duracell batteries work in the controllers or something, which would make MS's rebuttal make sense but as it stands it really makes none.

The allegation, and I'll be quoting the original Stealth Optional article here which started the rumor, is that Microsoft uses this solution unlike Sony's internal rechargeable batteries solution:

"Ever since 2006’s PS3 debut, consumers have become used to controllers being charged by USB. While every other gaming device since has embraced the rechargeable present, 14 years on, Microsoft has clung stubbornly to those chunky ‘90s charge sticks.

The question for many is, why? This ye olde battery strategy has, of course, been a great way for Microsoft to make more cash by selling Xbox players rechargeable battery packs.

Yet aside from this obvious moneymaker, the default support for AA batteries has always seemed to be an uncharacteristically old-fashioned move from a forward-thinking company.

Now, Stealth Optional has uncovered the real reason behind Xbox’s eyebrow-raising loyalty to a dying industry…"

Microsoft didn't debunk anything. The allegation was there was an agreement between them and Duracell for Duracell to supply the batteries included with the controllers, not that that's particularly newsworthy. Microsoft's "rebuttal" says consumers are free to use any battery brand they like which, uh, wasn't the claim.

Maybe someone was claiming that only Duracell batteries work in the controllers or something, which would make MS's rebuttal make sense but as it stands it really makes none.

If there was some sort of ongoing AA deal then why doesn't it cover the elite controller that has a rechargeable battery? Seems kind of odd if that somehow gets a pass in any deal, if there is a deal.

Microsoft didn't debunk anything. The allegation was there was an agreement between them and Duracell for Duracell to supply the batteries included with the controllers, not that that's particularly newsworthy. Microsoft's "rebuttal" says consumers are free to use any battery brand they like which, uh, wasn't the claim.

Maybe someone was claiming that only Duracell batteries work in the controllers or something, which would make MS's rebuttal make sense but as it stands it really makes none.

If there was some sort of ongoing AA deal then why doesn't it cover the elite controller that has a rechargeable battery? Seems kind of odd if that somehow gets a pass in any deal, if there is a deal.

and even if there was an ongoing deal, who cares? Not me!

Don't care about the brand but the 360 controller batteries life was awful. Hope it was solved with the Xbox one and xbox series x.

Most people buy reusable batteries from Amazon, Energizer, or Eneloop for their controllers . Duracell don't even make reusable batteries. I'm shocked that Energizer didn't cough up the cash to have Microsoft put their reusable batteries in controller bundles.

Most people buy reusable batteries from Amazon, Energizer, or Eneloop for their controllers . Duracell don't even make reusable batteries. I'm shocked that Energizer didn't cough up the cash to have Microsoft put their reusable batteries in controller bundles.

Especially with the Alan Wake tie-in

Most people buy reusable batteries from Amazon, Energizer, or Eneloop for their controllers . Duracell don't even make reusable batteries. I'm shocked that Energizer didn't cough up the cash to have Microsoft put their reusable batteries in controller bundles.

There are rechargeable Duracell batteries.

Eneloop are the best imo. Tried Duracell and energizer and eneloop lasts longer than all. Bought them for all my controllers including TV and other devices.

I remember when Energizer was the brand included with XBOX controllers. Was that just the 360?

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