Where "The Difference" came from
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Where "The Difference" came from
Well, my good friend Jon "Ngamer" Barber of the-elite.net fame contacted me today and forwarded a chat log to me which I think you guys might find interesting. It's from October 2006, and you can see here the actual origin of the original idea behind my recent story The Difference, as well as the story Gorge.
This is slightly edited for context.
* Stickmansam 1024 has entered the room.
Im Ngamer: morning Sam
Stickmansam 1024: heya
Stickmansam 1024: so anyway, I'm trying to write a scary story
Stickmansam 1024: and I realise this may be the worst possible place to start looking
Stickmansam 1024: but I need ideas
Im Ngamer: scary? you only write science fiction!
Stickmansam 1024: exactly
Stickmansam 1024: but there are big XP rewards here
Im Ngamer: will this story be both?
Stickmansam 1024: well, possibly
Stickmansam 1024: my current idea involves scifi
Stickmansam 1024: but I'm open to ideas
Im Ngamer: XP? how so?
Stickmansam 1024: http://www.everything2.com/?node_id=1835956
Stickmansam 1024: Experience Points on Everything2
Im Ngamer: how did you do on Wordmonger's Masque?
Stickmansam 1024: didn't enter
Stickmansam 1024: couldn't think of anything to write
BloodE of Sorrow: for shame sam
Im Ngamer: are you a Level 7 user?
Stickmansam 1024: no
Stickmansam 1024: L5
Stickmansam 1024: L6 I get a homenode pickature!
Stickmansam 1024: so, no ideas anyone?
BloodE of Sorrow: ideas for what sam?
Stickmansam 1024: scary stories
BloodE of Sorrow: hm
BloodE of Sorrow: I wrote this one AGES ago
BloodE of Sorrow: where this guy turned off the light and then the lightbulb floated away down stairs into the oven
BloodE of Sorrow: then he tried to turn the light on but the bulb wasn't there
BloodE of Sorrow: then he went to put something in the oven and it was full of lightbulb
BloodE of Sorrow: it was very scary
BloodE of Sorrow: it was during an english period in the back of my jotter
Stickmansam 1024: that's quite strange.
Stickmansam 1024: Hey here's an idea I just had
Stickmansam 1024: this guy gets chained to a computer and forced to talk to people online
Stickmansam 1024: he has to convince them he's a real person
Stickmansam 1024: and nobody believes him
Stickmansam 1024: they think he's a bot
Stickmansam 1024: because they've all been told he's a bot
Stickmansam 1024: eventually he gets brainwashed to believe he IS a bot
Stickmansam 1024: hah, that would be horrible
BloodE of Sorrow: Smarterchild
Stickmansam 1024: EXACTLY
Stickmansam 1024: some site is set up
Stickmansam 1024: it gives the AIM name of this guy
Stickmansam 1024: says "He's a really smart bot!"
Stickmansam 1024: "Can YOU outwit him?"
BloodE of Sorrow: Uh, why doesn't he just close his list?
BloodE of Sorrow: then he can only talk to peopel he wants to
Stickmansam 1024: because he's chained to it or something
Stickmansam 1024: until he manages to convince the world he's a real person
BloodE of Sorrow: how is he supposed to type if he's chained
Stickmansam 1024: it's a loose chain.
BloodE of Sorrow: if he can type he'll be able to close his list
Stickmansam 1024: ahh, SHUT UP
Stickmansam 1024: use your brain
Stickmansam 1024: obviously it'd be set up so he couldn't do that
BloodE of Sorrow: hey it's just a very flawed idea that's all
BloodE of Sorrow: to anyone who uses AIM
BloodE of Sorrow: who'd be the target audience
Stickmansam 1024: well, maybe a customised AIM client or something
Stickmansam 1024: I'd cover all these obvious, easy issues
Stickmansam 1024: it's the core concept I think
WouterJ007: I can hax it to make it work
WouterJ007: doh
BloodE of Sorrow: then it'd be less interessent
WouterJ007: interesting*
BloodE of Sorrow: I typed it like that on purpose wouter
BloodE of Sorrow: anyway
WouterJ007: if your last e was an a it was the dutch word
BloodE of Sorrow: "The customized AIM client meant that he had to talk to EVERYBODY"
WouterJ007: but everybody doesnt talk
BloodE of Sorrow: "The customized AIM client mean that had to have instant messaging conversation with EVERYBODY"
Stickmansam 1024: all right, let me set it up all rigorously
Stickmansam 1024: he is in a locked room with a computer
Stickmansam 1024: the computer is encased in steel
Stickmansam 1024: the screen is bulletproof
Stickmansam 1024: he can't destroy it, all he can do is use the keyboard and mouse
Stickmansam 1024: the comp is a custom OS set to run nothing but AOLIM
BloodE of Sorrow: with a keyboard and mouse he could close his list
Stickmansam 1024: he can't adjust his settings and he is always online
Stickmansam 1024: all he can do, essentially, is hold conversations with people
BloodE of Sorrow: with a keyboard and mouse he could hackz the client
Stickmansam 1024: no, because he doesn't know how
Stickmansam 1024: that's part of the fun:)
BloodE of Sorrow: what if someone tells him?
Stickmansam 1024: but they wouldn't
Stickmansam 1024: because they don't believe he's real
BloodE of Sorrow: but what if they did?
Stickmansam 1024: it wouldn't work
Stickmansam 1024: hack-proof client
Stickmansam 1024: specially set up
BloodE of Sorrow: no client is hack proof
Stickmansam 1024: this one is
Stickmansam 1024: work with me here
BloodE of Sorrow: you're living in a fantasy world mr hughes
Stickmansam 1024: I'M WRITING A FANTASY STORY
Stickmansam 1024: of course there will be some ELEMENT OF FANTASY involved
Stickmansam 1024: *slaps you*
BloodE of Sorrow: Slap me?
BloodE of Sorrow: Pah
WouterJ007: *kicks*
BloodE of Sorrow: I'm writing a short story called "The man who wrote stories about people who were forced to use hack-proof customized AIM clients who slaps people, and the other guy who kicks"
Stickmansam 1024: man
Stickmansam 1024: that sounds both imaginative and interesting to read
BloodE of Sorrow: "It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times..."
Im Ngamer: he doesn't get to leave the room until he convinces people he's not a bot?
Stickmansam 1024: yeah
Stickmansam 1024: or failing that
BloodE of Sorrow: Jon, late as per usual
Stickmansam 1024: he has to convince them that he is trapped in this room and needs rescuing
Im Ngamer: it's interesting as a concept, but I'm afraid I don't see the horror there
Stickmansam 1024: but nobody believes him!
Stickmansam 1024: and even if they do, they can't help him
BloodE of Sorrow: Sam I could see this having an ending similar ot that of Brazil
Stickmansam 1024: he's stuck there forever, because nobody believes he's real
Stickmansam 1024: it challenges notions of identity
BloodE of Sorrow: but instead of being the middle of a gigantic empty room, labotomized
Stickmansam 1024: I haven't seen Brazil.
BloodE of Sorrow: he is in the middle of a gigantic empty room, convinced he is a bot
Im Ngamer: but the horror of the story is just that he believes himself to be a bot by the end?
Stickmansam 1024: yeah
Im Ngamer: so it's a terrifying loss of identity?
Stickmansam 1024: he starts to doubt his own humanity
Stickmansam 1024: something like that
BloodE of Sorrow: as opposed to a fun happy go lucky loss of identity?
Stickmansam 1024: he decides he's not human
Im Ngamer: like I said, the concept is very interesting
BloodE of Sorrow: Jon you've seen Brazil yes?
Im Ngamer: I just have trouble thinking of it as a Halloween story
Stickmansam 1024: I know, like I say
Stickmansam 1024: I'm better at scifi than horror
Stickmansam 1024: mainly as I have more practice
Stickmansam 1024: here's the other idea I had
BloodE of Sorrow: The Halloween Lightbulb
Im Ngamer: yes Blood I have
BloodE of Sorrow: so you know what I'm talking about
Stickmansam 1024: these space guys (like Star Trek) find a planet which is completely flat and grey
Stickmansam 1024: this planet once had sentient life
BloodE of Sorrow: I thought that said flat and gay
Stickmansam 1024: but they had a nanotech problem
Stickmansam 1024: and the grey goo just ate their whole planet
Stickmansam 1024: it was programmed to propagate forever, and that's what it's done
Stickmansam 1024: it's been sitting like this for thousands of years or something
Im Ngamer: the goo must be very thick!
Stickmansam 1024: yes it is
Stickmansam 1024: goes all the way down to the core
Stickmansam 1024: or near as possible
Stickmansam 1024: anyway they scan this planet, drop a probe or 2 etc.
Stickmansam 1024: the probe crashes and gets eaten
BloodE of Sorrow: in the end of my story the guy gets burned alive by the intense wattage of the lightbulbs
BloodE of Sorrow: there is a happy ending where they are energy saving bulbs
Stickmansam 1024: so they figure out what happened and decide to place a warning and leave
BloodE of Sorrow: therefore he just gets a light tan
Stickmansam 1024: but then they realise the planet is starting to ripple
Stickmansam 1024: stuff flies into the air, then lands again
Stickmansam 1024: because it used to think it had swallowed everything there was to swallow
Stickmansam 1024: but now it knows what space travel is!
BloodE of Sorrow: and it flies around
BloodE of Sorrow: eating everything in the universe
Stickmansam 1024: so it takes off into space and engulfs the ship and heads back towards inhabited space
Stickmansam 1024: and eats the universe
Stickmansam 1024: yes
Stickmansam 1024: thing is, summarising the points here isn't as scary as it could be
Stickmansam 1024: writing it in story form is scarier
Im Ngamer: hmm
Stickmansam 1024: that's what I'm working on right now
Im Ngamer: all because they let their nanotech get corrupted, eh?
Stickmansam 1024: not really
BloodE of Sorrow: I think my story is better
Stickmansam 1024: just some guy made a single nanobot
Stickmansam 1024: with the command
BloodE of Sorrow: about the lightbulb
Stickmansam 1024: while(1) { propagate(); }
Stickmansam 1024: like an idiot, he didn't include any kind of shutdown command
Stickmansam 1024: and it ate their whole civilisation
BloodE of Sorrow: yeah, what an idiot
Im Ngamer: wouldn't it take a very long time to eat the universe though?
Stickmansam 1024: sure
Im Ngamer: how will you maintain the suspense
Stickmansam 1024: but it has FTL travel now
Im Ngamer: over those millenia
Stickmansam 1024: it just follows the original ship's trail
Stickmansam 1024: back to the human-inhabited worlds
Stickmansam 1024: and eats them all
Stickmansam 1024: just drops one bot on each planet
Im Ngamer: so it's like Kirby? it can use anything it swallows?
Stickmansam 1024: very easy
Stickmansam 1024: yeah
BloodE of Sorrow: Kirby isn't scary though
Im Ngamer: he could be
Stickmansam 1024: Kirby is pink.
Stickmansam 1024: this planet's grey.
Stickmansam 1024: and not cute either.
Im Ngamer: maybe if you gave it a smiling face
Stickmansam 1024: well those are my ideas
Im Ngamer: ok, well, I'm more interested in I, Aim Bot
Stickmansam 1024: hah
Stickmansam 1024: very good
Im Ngamer: but I think Technology: One, Universe: Nano has more potential to win this prize
Stickmansam 1024: well I can write both
Stickmansam 1024: it's not a problem
Stickmansam 1024: what should I call this planet?
Stickmansam 1024: never mind, it's not a major issue
Im Ngamer: I think it is!
BloodE of Sorrow: the planet should be called Kirby
BloodE of Sorrow: <><>
Im Ngamer: ah, not a bad idea
Im Ngamer: some reference to Kirby
Stickmansam 1024: (>")>
Stickmansam 1024: no, it makes it less scary
BloodE of Sorrow: wait wait
Stickmansam 1024: I'll just call it Grey Planet
BloodE of Sorrow: gimme a minute
BloodE of Sorrow: you could call it Dreamland
Stickmansam 1024: hah
Stickmansam 1024: that would be silly
BloodE of Sorrow: Nightmareland
BloodE of Sorrow: Greay Planet is a little
BloodE of Sorrow: ...
BloodE of Sorrow: what's the word?
Stickmansam 1024: awesome?
BloodE of Sorrow: no
BloodE of Sorrow: Like when something doesn't have oomf
BloodE of Sorrow: Did godzilla eat alot?
BloodE of Sorrow: you could call it Godzilla if he did
Stickmansam 1024: I guess
Im Ngamer: birds eat twice their weight in food everyday!
BloodE of Sorrow: if jupiter was bigger wouldn't it eat everything?
Im Ngamer: name it after a bird
Stickmansam 1024: I'll just give it a random name
Stickmansam 1024: like Vontus
Stickmansam 1024: or Ireeax
BloodE of Sorrow: Jupiter II
Stickmansam 1024: anyway, all these ideas suck
BloodE of Sorrow: give it a name that will give a subtle hint to how it will eat everything
Stickmansam 1024: "Gorge"
BloodE of Sorrow: so people will be like "o i c wat u did thar"
* Stickmansam 1024 has left the room.
Strangely enough, I completely forgot about this conversation after this. I wrote Gorge in November, but couldn't get the words straight for the other story and dropped the idea. Much later, I posted in this thread on reddit.com (my username there is sam512) and it was so well-received that I picked the idea up again and finished what eventually became The Difference. It's only recently that this was sent back to me.
I think "I, Aimbot" is a great title, although I'd probably go for the variant "I, Chatbot" instead so as not to favour one IM system over others.
Anyway, I was interested to read this again 8+ months later so I thought some people might be interested too (this is, after all, the philosophy behind this site). Of course, note that this should NOT be taken as confirmation that the character "Z" in The Difference is a human, by the way...
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