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Jon Stewart Claims Apple Wouldn't Let Him Interview FTC Chair On His Podcast

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Sara Fischer reports via Axios: Jon Stewart on Monday told Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Chair Lina Khan that Apple wouldn't let him interview her for a podcast. "I wanted to have you on a podcast and Apple asked us not to do it," "The Daily Show" host said to Khan, in reference to his former podcast that was an extension of his Apple TV+ comedy show "The Problem With Jon Stewart." "They literally said 'please don't talk to her,' having nothing to do with what you do for a living. I think they just... I didn't think they cared for you is what happened," he added during his conversation with Khan. "They wouldn't let us do even that dumb thing we just did in the first act on AI. Like, what is that sensitivity? Why are they so afraid to even have these conversations out in the public sphere?"

Stewart returned to "The Daily Show" in February after leaving in 2015 as its executive producer and host on Monday evenings through the 2024 election cycle. Stewart's Apple TV+ show ended late last year after Stewart and Apple executives parted ways over creative differences, including the comedian's desire to cover topics such as China and AI, the New York Times reported.
  • Confused, Did they actually block it or do as they said in the article and ask "please don't talk to her". Not wanting to defend Apple as they are scum, but asking is not a problem, actively blocking is.
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          I don't waste my time with Jon Stewart or Steven Colbert or Greg Gutfeld or even Trump.

          I am waiting for The Little Red Book Of Prescient Joe Xiden Writings And Sayings to come out in either large print or 'audiobook' format.

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        my bad then, didn't realize he was employed by Apple as such absolutely nothing wrong with them dictating to him how his work is performed.
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          Absolutely nothing wrong? Do you think that journalism exists just to flatter the sensibilities of whoever owns the newspaper?

          Even if he's not a journalist (and it's true that he walks a line there), it's not really okay when your boss tells you that you shouldn't criticize something dangerous because alerting people to that danger might mean less money for your company.
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      Apple now owns the rights to the FTC
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      The pushback from Apple was in the form of "Your show has been cancelled and you are released from your contract."

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        I think Elon pulled that with someone recently for asking him questions he didn't like.
        Here's saluting for the Free Speech absolutist!

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      Is this like the difference when one's boss "asks" versus "insists" or "orders"? When a superior "asks," it's not the same as when a peer "asks."

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        Yup. One of my grandfathers was a retired Navy Captain. When he politely asked to you to do something, it was pretty clear he wasn't asking.

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        Yeah, or when my wife "asks"...

  • She also has some interesting views about the current state of the financial system I guess.

  • This explains why Apple TV+ original content is all so dull and lifeless...

    • They don't want to anger the companies that handle their supply chain, the global global economy is a race to the bottom and the bottom is way down there when you so business with nations that turn their own citizens into slaves for the industrialized world
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        You spelled China wrong.

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      It's Apple, famous for its walled garden and family friendly content.

      They have half some decent stuff like For All Mankind, but generally I agree with your assessment. A lot of it is bland and uninteresting. For example, Masters of the Air failed to do anything interesting, and the one line in the entire script that broke out of that got censored.

  • by PubJeezy ( 10299395 ) on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @09:17PM (#64365362)

    This is just an old media broadcasting monopoly attacking a new media tech monopoly.

    In an argument between Warner Media and Apple, consumers don't have a horse. They're both ripping off every single American household they do business with. Jon Stewart has been in the industry for decades and he's complaining about a podcast booker instead of the mass consolidation in broadcasting and entertainment?

    Jon Stewart is corny and his politics has not kept up with the evolving political climate. And...wasn't apple involved in several court cases against involving Khan's agency? The reasons not to book her were definitely practical and technical, not moral or political and Jon Stewart is smart enough to know that. This is a meaningless, self-serving stance from a lazy pundit. Jon Stewart has worked for the same small group of network executives at Viacom/Comedy Central/Waner for decades, they're his bosses. To describe Apple as his "boss" because of 20 podcast episodes is ridiculous and stretches language to the point of absurdity.
    • by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:18PM (#64365488)

      Jon Stewart is corny and his politics has not kept up with the evolving political climate. And...wasn't apple involved in several court cases against involving Khan's agency? The reasons not to book her were definitely practical and technical, not moral or political and Jon Stewart is smart enough to know that. This is a meaningless, self-serving stance from a lazy pundit. Jon Stewart has worked for the same small group of network executives at Viacom/Comedy Central/Waner for decades, they're his bosses. To describe Apple as his "boss" because of 20 podcast episodes is ridiculous and stretches language to the point of absurdity.

      Yet Viacom wasn't the one telling him to kill segments or not interview certain people.

      People have always been leery of having big corporations run news organizations for very obvious reasons. That's why there's typically a firewall protecting news departments from corporate interference, because the moment its found out the news side loses credibility. No one thinks the firewall is perfect, but for the corporate side it's more of a "break glass instead of emergency" situation as opposed to regularly passing notes under the door.

      Sure, Stewart isn't a pure journalist, but he definitely close enough that the audience expects him to have independence.

      I never heard about Comedy Central telling Jon Stewart was stories he could or couldn't cover, yet in 20 episodes Apple managed to do it twice, and they did it on topics that Apple shouldn't have really cared about.

      Honestly, that's Apple not understanding the role of journalists (even satirical ones) at all. They seemingly viewed Stewart as a typical employee where they could instruct him what projects to pursue.

      But that's not how the news is supposed to work.

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        I know the South Park guys are given station to basically do whatever they want. I remember watching one of their commentaries where they said to the viacom studio head they were going to draw Mohammed and the response was basically "come on you guys! why do you have to do that?" to which they responded something to the effect of "We're going to give you an episode and you're going to pay us per the contract, whether you air it or not is on you." Apparently the only real pushback they ever get is from their

    • by edwdig ( 47888 ) on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:22PM (#64365502)

      Jon Stewart has been in the industry for decades and he's complaining about a podcast booker instead of the mass consolidation in broadcasting and entertainment?

      Consolidation in entertainment was literally the example Jon Stewart used in the interview as an example of consolidation the FTC should be concerned about.

      Jon Stewart has worked for the same small group of network executives at Viacom/Comedy Central/Waner for decades, they're his bosses. To describe Apple as his "boss" because of 20 podcast episodes is ridiculous and stretches language to the point of absurdity.

      Jon Stewart completely left Viacom/Comedy Central in 2015. He signed a deal with Apple in 2020 to make a show for Apple TV. He produced two seasons. The show was cancelled during production of season 3 because Apple didn't want him tackling serious issues. There were also clashes during the previous seasons. It wasn't any one particular issue that was the problem, it was a repeated pattern of Apple not wanting him to go near subjects they were sensitive about.

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          Yes he did. This story is about comments he made during the interview segment of Monday's episode of The Daily Show.

          I know a lot of people on Slashdot don't read the articles, but all of this is in the Slashdot summary.

  • That are sold in the USA nowadays I don't think the FTC has been doing their job for over 20 years, Yeah I know caveat emptor but the FTC is supposed to be filtering the products that are dangerous and of inferior quality
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      You can't blame the FTC or even China for that kind of thing. The fact is Americans (all westerners really) say we want quality goods, but in truth we really don't. You may want quality goods, and all your friends and neighbors want quality goods, but it turns out a majority of people would rather pay a lower price for lower quality. It would take a huge FTC to protect us from our own short-sightedness.

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        Having lived on both sides of the Atlantic, I can confirm that goods made in China for both markets are qualitatively different. For one reason or another, we seem to get better value for money over here in Yurp. I've also seen Chinese goods that Chinese people have bought in China & brought with them over here. They seem to be even better quality still. My guess is that Chinese factories will make goods to whatever specifications you want & some customers insist on better quality than others.
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          It's more like that the quality levels of goods they sell to a market is usually finely tuned to the standards set in that market. The highest quality goods go to markets that enforce high quality standards, this being countries like Japan, Korea, Singapore or and that socialist hell-scape know to people outside the United States as 'Western Europe'. Lower quality goods get dumped in deregulated markets with weak or no real enforcement of quality standards.

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      Yeah but won't someone thinking of the wallets! Americans worship the discount. You can see that with global stats on products and safety. e.g. notice how in NY there's an epidemic of battery related fires for e-bikes, while in the Netherlands there isn't despite the latter having several orders of magnitude more e-bikes, and both having access to the same shoddy Chinese crap on Amazon?

      You get what you pay for. And we know Americans like to live dangerously so that's what they pay for.

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      They probably should do a better job on filtering dangerous products, but inferior quality should not be something they filter against.

      Product X may be good quality but cost 1000 bucks, product Y may be of inferior quality and cost 100 bucks. What consumers decide to buy should be up to them (budget, etc matters to the individual).

  • Then at least let him interview Ajit Pai on how he became the most crooked politician in all of recorded history.
  • Sorry, but she isn't. I watched the interview. She is well spoken and does a good job, but her answers were pretty canned and Jon served her softballs. Yes, she is suing Amazon. Yes she's made a bunch of lawsuits. Jon portrayed her as some crusader defending the rights of the average American from evil corporations. For someone who tries to portray himself as independent and not beholden to being a corporate shill, he served her softballs all night.

    Why didn't he ask her about her poor win record [levelup.com]?

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      What did you mean by this? Are you suggesting that Lina Khan is a corporation? Or that she's acting on behalf of one?

      I haven't watched the interview, so I can't answer your questions, but I've seen him before and this doesn't sound like an adversarial interview. He does those sometimes. Most of the time really. The point is to get some expert or notable figure to come onto the show and explain their subject. That's it. It's not an aggressive style in the way that you're suggesting..


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