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Risky Online Behaviour Such as Piracy 'Almost Normalized' Among Young People, Says Study

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Risky and criminal online behaviour is in danger of becoming normalized among a generation of young people across Europe, according to EU-funded research that found one in four 16- to 19-year-olds have trolled someone online and one in three have engaged in digital piracy. From a report: An EU-funded study found evidence of widespread criminal, risky and delinquent behaviour among the 16-19 age group in nine European countries including the UK. A survey of 8,000 young people found that one in four have tracked or trolled someone online, one in eight have engaged in online harassment, one in 10 have engaged in hate speech or hacking, one in five have engaged in sexting and one in three have engaged in digital piracy. It also found that four out of 10 have watched pornography.

Julia Davidson, a co-author of the research and professor of criminology at the University of East London (UEL), said risky and criminal online behaviour was becoming almost normalised among a generation of European young people. "The research indicates that a large proportion of young people in the EU are engaging in some form of cybercrime, to such an extent that the conduct of low-level crimes online and online risk-taking has become almost normalised," she said.
  • by methano ( 519830 ) on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:27PM (#63105384)

    Only 40% have watched pron. That's amazing. That's gotta be 100% of the boys and 20% of the girls.
    • Re:

      That yields an average of 60%, just saying...

    • Re:

      40% admitted to an adult they watch porn. Guarantee even the least curious has seen at least one if they're online. Most have probably fapped themselves raw to it.

      • Re:

        That's how you know this is a European study. In America's current political climate, the researchers would be called "groomers" for talking about masturbation to children.

        • Re:

          The study talked to "16-19 age group in nine European countries including the UK" so they're all above the age of consent and a fair few of them are allowed to vote or buy a beer in a pub.
    • Re:

      Porn is only risky if you get walked in on. Do they not have door locks in Europe?

      • I don't know, man... I still remember being not even 12 and seeing my first Hustler magazine, with the classic tunnel shots. Traumatizing. Not a good way to be introduced to the vagina.

    • Re:

      All of these numbers seem like nonsense. I guarantee 999 out of 1000 have watched porn and the other one was blind. These numbers are ridiculous for piracy and other activities as well. Virtually everyone trolls, pirates, etc at some point.

      The whole thing probably was conducted so they could have an excuse to sit piracy next to a bunch of trigger topics and somewhat bad activity and lobby for taxpayer paid copyright cartel enforcement.

    • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:55PM (#63105590)

      In other news 60% of respondents refused to admit they have watched porn.
    • Re:

      It's a shitty survey.
      "Found evidence" my ass.

      It's like when they ask little boys if they've had sex and of course they all say "Yes, loads of times". Cue shock headlines.

      Fuck social "science".

  • One in four have "tracked or trolled someone online"? It's dangerous, even criminal behavior? Did a definition change behind my back?

    • Re:

      It might mean something if they offered a definition of "trolling". As far as I can make out, it means saying anything that someone doesn't like. Especially if it is contrary to the establishment line.

      Socrates, the Cynics, Rousseau, Voltaire, Tom Paine, Thomas Jefferson, and countless of the livelier and cleverer spirits since engaged in constant trolling. As Socrates put it when on trial for his life, he was like a gadfly that stung the big, sleepy horse of Athenian society into action - even if the action

      • Re:

        I will be using this. Well done.

      • But if Im forced to think that the universe may be right and I may be wrong, I will be confronted with the uncomfortable truth of my fallibilityâ¦â¦that is unacceptable

      • Re:

        As far as I can make out, you've listed a handful of well-known social and political philosophers and labeled them "trolls" as a way of trying to prove a point. Even if your point was valid, what percentage of on line trolls would you say are of the "constructive" sort? Almost all the ones I've run across are either whoring for attention or seeking to provoke outrage -- and I'm talking about the "Hitler was right" variety, not the vanishingly rare ones attempting to stimulate thoughtful discourse.

        Socrates

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      One in four have "tracked or trolled someone online"? It's dangerous, even criminal behavior? Did a definition change behind my back?

      Well, they claim there is such a thing as "hate speech" now, even in parts of the US.

      So, go figure.

      They are re-defining what things are, and what is criminal at a rate that would embarrass most of the characters in 1984.

      • Re:

        Another great comment.

        The silenced, centrist, majority need politicians to speak for us, against the lunatic right and against the woke left running - and ruining - things.

        • Re:

          Have you been in a classroom recently?

    • Look got to understand, these are kids that were raised on the corrupting influence that it was Night Trap on the Sega CD. Some of them might have played Mortal Kombat. These aren't kids anymore these are bloodthirsty killers out for kicks. Why, some of them may have even fallen into reefer madness. That's how I lost my friend Becky.
      • Re:

        She went snorkelling and didn't come back?

        • Re:

          No you're thinking of Taylor swift. I was talking about Becky.
  • I am in my late 60s. When I was young most people copied music cassette tapes and copied vinyl records to cassettes. I don't see any real difference from "digital piracy". This does not make it right but shows that today's "young people" are, in this respect, not really very different from their grandparents.

    • Re:

      Yeah, and in the 80s we were copying friends' games on floppies. Quelle horror!
    • Re:

      I saw a difference. A copy of a copy of a cassette from a vinyl record was a mess. Digital copies are perfect.

      • Re:

        I'm gonna take a guess you didn't get into downloading MP3s in the mid to late 90s? There was a lot of music which was compressed using the absolutely horrible XingMP3 encoder, and it wasn't entirely uncommon to download songs that skipped or had clicks due to being ripped from a damaged CD.

        A properly done recording from a clean vinyl record can sound pretty good. Judge for yourself [mediafire.com]. That's Mannheim Steamroller's Carol of the Bells from an original 1988 pressing of A Fresh Aire Christmas played on an Aud

    • You had access to vinyl records? Lucky.

      I had to pirate my songs by taping them from the radio. Damn DJs talked over like half of my music collection.

      • Re:

        Haha, recording radio and tv broadcasts for personal use is call 'fair use'. Look it up.

        It is only Piracy if you redistribute said recording. So if you are watching a TV show from a Piracy site (they are distributing, not you) - is it really Piracy on your part? If you don't pay for it?
        • Re:

          It was actually still a bit up in the air legally until 1984 [wikipedia.org]. Ironically, if the case was heard again by today's SCOTUS, it probably would be decided differently. Most recent rulings on similar cases have sided with the rights holders.

    • Re:

      It doesn't make it wrong either. The copyright trolls are rich enough.
      • Re:

        So are the patent trolls in US Federal Courts

    • Re:

      Late 60s was reel to reel. It's surprising how well those tapes have held up.
    • Re:

      Not that I am particularly worried or care about this, but digital is different because it is entirely possible to make literal 1:1 lossless duplicates, rather than degraded copies. Maybe it's not a legal distinction, but it does matter and does have different effects.

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      i bet the whole point of the study was to get press releases that equate digital privacy with scary stuff

    • Re:

      Yeah I found that statistic troubling, as in it is too low a number. We are becoming too goody-goody.

    • Re:

      Perhaps. But to be fair, no-one's walkman ever became part of a bot-net.

  • ... and their pets in academia, don't like when newer generations don't obey their bullshit intellectual property laws.

  • Piracy was way more prevalent in the age of physical media
    • Re:

      Anecdotally, most of what I see shared these days (based on available seeds) is content from streaming TV services, because there's still a lot of people who don't want to subscribe to a specific service just for one show.

      Music piracy however, seems to be down substantially, since there really doesn't seem to be the same kind of exclusivity when it comes to music streaming services. They all basically seem to have the same stuff if you're into mainstream artists. One paid subscription to iTunes, Spotify,

  • Have they been hiding under rocks for the last couple of decades?

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      Seriously, it was normal for my generation and we are now pushing our mid-40's.
    • Re:

      Just because everyone knows it doesn't mean it's not worth studying. Sometimes it turns out to be false. Usually it turns out to be true, but sometimes there's aspects that can provoke more interesting lines of study.

  • What's the difference between a decentralized global digital library that all can leverage, and piracy?
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      Some corporate schmuck pissed off he didn't get paid for it?

    • Re:

      Piracy involves armed individuals murder, rape and pillage on the high seas. The other only has accounts of that sort of activity in books.

  • Given the track record of preservation of corporations, specially game corporations, piracy is pretty much the only way to keep much of the data alive.

  • People steal ships? Or you are talking about copyright infringement?
    • Stealing ships carries a smaller penalty than distributing Disney videos.

    • Re:

      Actually the whole article is concerned about the rise of pastafarianism.
      • Re:

        I'm pastafarian since 2005
        • Re:

          *2007 (my bad)
  • Piracy has been around since forever. Back in the early 80's every town in my area had a local "librarian" that stored software. If you wanted to pilfer the library all that was required is that you added your wares to the pile. We could get any cassette tape, diskette, or dumped cartridge ROM to tape/disk that we wanted for any system, although it was mostly TRS-80 (Model I/III and COCO I/II) stuff. The librarians would then get together once in a while too. Then BBS systems started popping up. Then the In
  • If you look back at 80s, you will find that a large proportion of young people shoplifted at least once, bullied someone on the playground or owned pron mag. Welcome to the digital age.
  • I love how they throw around the word "piracy" to make it sound more dire and elicit a stronger response. Like a person held someone up at knife or gunpoint and stole something from them.

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      What they fail to understand is that pirates are cool. If we could add ninjas, zombies and robots somehow, nobody would buy any content anymore.

  • Considering that my generation normalized promiscuity, drug and alcohol use, and drag racing, I'd say the Europeans are doing rather well. More than one of my acquaintances didn't live long enough to make it to college.

  • Why do we even allow trolls? I say trolls should not be allowed to access the internet. We need to bring back social credit scoring in this country. We need to check social credit scores before anyone can signup for a AOL, Microsoft, Google, or whatever it is people use to access the internet nowadays. We need a safe space for the exchange and articulation of ideas in a coherent and cordial manner; someplace not interrupted by idiots. When fools come into the picture that seriously fucks shit up. The quality of debate here on slashdot has been declining for quite a while now. I remember when esteemed think tanks and social policy institutes like the GNAA used to post insightful comments on here, only to be harassed by trolls.

  • that Adolescents do adolescent things.

  • Give us a FAIR duration of the copyright *privilege* we allow creators, i.e. five years, and we can discuss (any remaining) piracy.

    Until it's fair, WE PIRATE WITH AN CLEAR CONSCIENCE.

  • Off the computer and go shoot a deer, coyote or whatever. Nothing like being outdoors and bagging that 12 pointer.

  • They ain't part of the EU anymore, so shut up.

    On a more practical note.. if 'piracy' is so widespread, maybe it's time for content creators to switch to a more pragmatic model - like setting a financial target for a series and relying on pledges to get the amount they need to produce it, and then once produced, just make it public and let everyone download it.

    The copying of information is built into entropy and universal laws. Kids copy behavior, we copy ideas, cells copy dna. It's everywhere. Stop
    • Re:

      They ain't part of the EU anymore, so shut up.

      So they should just take the EU's money and do nothing with it?

      Also, not the University of London.

  • ...and horrified, I tell you. Just the thought of all those poor young souls being led astray with all this criminal behaviour. Oh, the children, the children, will nobody think of the poor children!

    But on the bright side, at least they're not writing to the BBC to get "fixed" by Jimmy Saville any more. That really is risky, criminal behaviour.
  • It's only almost normalized now.

    Back when I was young, it was normalized. I'm fairly sure a bunch of kids didn't even know that it's possible to buy computer games.

    • Re:

      Well, it no longer is.

  • next thing you know they will be smoking dope or drinking beer. They could be Jaywalking or getting into fights. The horror of today's youths.
  • one in four have tracked or trolled someone online, one in eight have engaged in online harassment, one in 10 have engaged in hate speech or hacking, one in five have engaged in sexting and one in three have engaged in digital piracy

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politic... [go.com]

  • Is that all? I am disappointed.

  • At the most you need an adblocker, and people who know how to pirate probably know enough to install uBlock.

    What else do you need to know? Don't download movies ending in.exe or.bin? If you're downloading a program make sure to read reviews and use something like VirusTotal?

    99% of the time piracy provides a cleaner, better product than the companies themselves are willing to provide, and privacy will continue until companies get a clue.

    Only people unable to think critically and especially prone to indoctri

  • Piracy is popular because legitimate ways of obtaining content are a rip-off in most situations. The price that companies like DirecTV, Comcast, AT&T, Dish, etc charge for a full TV package can be up there with that of a car or rent payment. Not to mention that they openly engage in things such as randomly and frequently raising prices, adding non-obvious fees, charging rental fees for the equipment that you use, etc, etc. Streaming isn't much better. For a very brief time, you could get most stuff
  • OMG, what's next? Is "risky online behavior" a gateway to shoplifting? It's only a matter of time before they turn to drug abuse!

  • Piracy is praxis.
  • Can't say "Trumped up" anymore because he made that a nothing-burger.

    Piracy is when someone steals your ship's contents on the high seas. You no longer have those contents. The pirates do. The value goes up because the risk to acquire goes up. This BULLSHIT calling people pirates because they downloaded a file is nothing like that. There's no theft, no diminished product value, etc.

    In my hometown there is an annual bicycle race that brings riders from all over the world. The association that runs it (

  • I'll stop when Mickey Mouse enters the public domain. Oh that keeps getting pushed back? I guess I'm still pirating then.


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