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Apple Releases Studio Display Firmware 15.5 With Webcam Update
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Apple Releases Studio Display Firmware 15.5 With Webcam Update
Apr 12, 2001
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Apple today released a new 15.5 firmware for the Studio Display, with the update coming after a few weeks of beta testing. The Studio Display Firmware improves the performance of the webcam.
The Studio Display firmware can be updated by connecting it to a Mac running macOS Monterey 12.4, which was also released today. After installing the new Mac software, Studio Display owners can go to System Preferences > Software Update to install the firmware.
Apple has been working on a firmware update for the Studio Display since March, to address complaints about the quality of the webcam.
The Studio Display is equipped with a 12-megapixel Ultra Wide camera that supports Center Stage, but Studio Display reviewers and owners discovered that the camera consistently produces grainy, washed-out images, which Apple has said is the result of the system not behaving as expected.
According to Apple's release notes, the firmware refines camera tuning, offering improved noise reduction, contrast, and framing. We tested out the firmware update when it was in beta, and there is a clear difference in camera quality, mostly as it pertains to the way the framing works.
In addition to better framing, colors are not quite as pale, the contrast has been improved, and the overall look is more vibrant. Skin tones are also better than before, and there is less de-noising for more clarity, but ultimately Studio Display owners should not expect dramatic changes.
Article Link: Apple Releases Studio Display Firmware 15.5 With Webcam Update
Apple has been working on a firmware update for the Studio Display since March, to address complaints about the quality of the webcam.
The Studio Display is equipped with a 12-megapixel Ultra Wide camera that supports Center Stage, but Studio Display reviewers and owners discovered that the camera consistently produces grainy, washed-out images, which Apple has said is the result of the system not behaving as expected.
According to Apple's release notes, the firmware refines camera tuning, offering improved noise reduction, contrast, and framing. We tested out the firmware update when it was in beta, and there is a clear difference in camera quality, mostly as it pertains to the way the framing works.
In addition to better framing, colors are not quite as pale, the contrast has been improved, and the overall look is more vibrant. Skin tones are also better than before, and there is less de-noising for more clarity, but ultimately Studio Display owners should not expect dramatic changes.
Article Link: Apple Releases Studio Display Firmware 15.5 With Webcam Update
pauldunlop
macrumors newbie
Jul 23, 2002
When do we start to worry that this is a more fundamental problem with the hardware, and Apple are scrambling to work around them? I had always assumed it was a last minute bug and it would be a fairly quick fix to enable the better image quality - but it seems not?
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Should have started worrying when the reviews came out.When do we start to worry that this is a more fundamental problem with the hardware, and Apple are scrambling to work around them? I had always assumed it was a last minute bug and it would be a fairly quick fix to enable the better image quality - but it seems not?
Software can only do so much. I think Apple thought they could get away with a middling webcam and call it a day. However, when you put it into context that this is a $1500 display, "middling" doesn't do it.
Frankly this is just turning into another overpriced Apple display that doesn't offer much more than competing panels at this price point (or lower).
pauldunlop
macrumors newbie
Jul 23, 2002
I just find that hard to believe. The webcam in my M1 iMac is better than the Studio Display right now, and that doesn't seem like a hardware skimping thing, that seems like something else. I can't figure they intentionally shipped a worse camera in the Studio Display than the consumer-targeted M1 iMac.Should have started worrying when the reviews came out.
Software can only do so much. I think Apple thought they could get away with a middling webcam and call it a day. However, when you put it into context that this is a $1500 display, "middling" doesn't do it.
Frankly this is just turning into another overpriced Apple display that doesn't offer much more than competing panels at this price point (or lower).
Having been using the Betas, it's certainly an improvement... but still not great.
Still seeing very bad Power Management bugs with the Stupid Display tho, i.e. the fans running 24x7 even when the connected MacBook Air is asleep and fully charged...
Still seeing very bad Power Management bugs with the Stupid Display tho, i.e. the fans running 24x7 even when the connected MacBook Air is asleep and fully charged...
Benjamin Nabulsi
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Apr 28, 2020
it would be great if anyone finds traces of Studio Display Pro
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So center stage is a wide angle camera system that pans in sw. By definition then the framed image you see on a zoom call is a subset of the pixels available from the camera, thats some of our resolution problem there. One person sitting close to the webcam in a dimly lit room is not what this technology was intended for so overall its a bad fit for most of us. No sw update is going to turn it into the right camera lens.When do we start to worry that this is a more fundamental problem with the hardware, and Apple are scrambling to work around them? I had always assumed it was a last minute bug and it would be a fairly quick fix to enable the better image quality - but it seems not?
That being said, the webcam is decent enough for zoom calls and the like. I have not tested this new firmware but have seen the noise get bad if there is light behind me like through a window.
The monitor though is really amazing otherwise. I feel like the webcam gets way too much press compared to the overall build quality and display sharpness.
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The fact is the iMac does have a much better camera (I also have both) because it's using the entire sensor instead of cropping it down to 1/4-1/6 of its area.I just find that hard to believe. The webcam in my M1 iMac is better than the Studio Display right now, and that doesn't seem like a hardware skimping thing, that seems like something else. I can't figure they intentionally shipped a worse camera in the Studio Display than the consumer-targeted M1 iMac.
They chose the gimmicky center stage feature. The Touch Bar of 2022.
Quality has definitely improved with the update. More than good enough for web meetings even before, not sure what everybody expects.
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pauldunlop
macrumors newbie
Jul 23, 2002
Yeah, that's actually a good point. I had forgotten that. Urgh. It's a great monitor, but I'm super unhappy that I've had to mount a spare iPhone with Camo software right above it to have a reasonable camera. Just feels wrong, having spent so much on something brand new. ::Grumble::The fact is the iMac does have a much better camera (I also have both) because it's using the entire sensor instead of cropping it down to 1/4-1/6 of its area.
They chose the gimmicky center stage feature. The Touch Bar of 2022.
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Reeneman
macrumors member
Nov 25, 2021
How many Updates will we see with camera updates?
Still waiting for a firmware update on my Galaxy s7 to bring the camera quality on par with newer devices 😅
Still waiting for a firmware update on my Galaxy s7 to bring the camera quality on par with newer devices 😅
What competing 5k monitor do you recommend?Should have started worrying when the reviews came out.
Software can only do so much. I think Apple thought they could get away with a middling webcam and call it a day. However, when you put it into context that this is a $1500 display, "middling" doesn't do it.
Frankly this is just turning into another overpriced Apple display that doesn't offer much more than competing panels at this price point (or lower).
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TIMO_737
macrumors newbie
Sep 16, 2019
Hasselt - Belgium
Yeah power management is really poor. Even connected to a Mac mini the fans constantly come on. If I change my focus or I take a picture for example on my iPhone and this ‘wakes’ the mac mini to connect to icloud, fans start spinning. Any minor background task the Mac mini does it engages the fans of the display even with the screen staying black. Really needs fixing. Already sent feed-back to Apple. Disappointing.Having been using the Betas, it's certainly an improvement... but still not great.
Still seeing very bad Power Management bugs with the Stupid Display tho, i.e. the fans running 24x7 even when the connected MacBook Air is asleep and fully charged...
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alexandr
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Yea, but what the hell isn't good enough for web meetings?..Quality has definitely improved with the update. More than good enough for web meetings even before, not sure what everybody expects.
Apple Knowledge Navigator
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I'm surprised you thought it was a bug. It's been said so many times - the 'issue', if you can even call it that, is simply that Apple is using too small a sensor for the size of the display. The reason the image quality appears worse than on an iPad is because it is being magnified to 27".When do we start to worry that this is a more fundamental problem with the hardware, and Apple are scrambling to work around them? I had always assumed it was a last minute bug and it would be a fairly quick fix to enable the better image quality - but it seems not?
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I think you are justified in being unhappy with the quality of the camera. It’s an expensive monitor where apple priced it as high as they could get away with and saved as much money as they could get away with. I mean the screen is great but let’s not pretend it’s anything other than a slightly better iMac screen that have been knocking around for YEARS. The camera IS poor, but Apple know they can get away with it now and we’ll just eat it up.Yeah, that's actually a good point. I had forgotten that. Urgh. It's a great monitor, but I'm super unhappy that I've had to mount a spare iPhone with Camo software right above it to have a reasonable camera. Just feels wrong, having spent so much on something brand new. ::Grumble::
Regards,
A Fellow Studio Display Owner 😆
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I think the larger issue here is the quality at the price point. The display panel is almost exactly the same as the LG UltraFine 5K, which launched with the new Mac Pro several years ago. This wasn't a ground-breaking, custom panel design with additional features like we saw in the XDR display.So center stage is a wide angle camera system that pans in sw. By definition then the framed image you see on a zoom call is a subset of the pixels available from the camera, thats some of our resolution problem there. One person sitting close to the webcam in a dimly lit room is not what this technology was intended for so overall its a bad fit for most of us. No sw update is going to turn it into the right camera lens.
That being said, the webcam is decent enough for zoom calls and the like. I have not tested this new firmware but have seen the noise get bad if there is light behind me like through a window.
The monitor though is really amazing otherwise. I feel like the webcam gets way too much press compared to the overall build quality and display sharpness.
Apple essentially took a several year old panel, put a new wrapper on it, added some additional IO and a relatively meh camera, and upped the price. Representing the display as anything extraordinary (which, to be fair, Apple does with nearly every product) was just not accurate. And frankly, the price point - without a height adjustable stand - is a sin in 2022.
Most pro users (who aren't editing 4K footage) would be well served with a much lower cost 4K display in my mind. The extra resolution afforded on a 5K display is primarily helpful for 4K workflows. But once again, the net was cast wide on the Studio lineup, and a large number of users of these devices most likely aren't in the 4K video editing space.
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Feeling a little better about my $725 LG 32" 4K purchase. Though when I use my 2015 iMac (now relegated my music studio) I do miss the UI sharpness and extra brightness of the 27" 5K. I didn't need a webcam or built-in speakers so I simply could not justify the $'s for SD, and the XDR price is out of reach.I think you are justified in being unhappy with the quality of the camera. It’s an expensive monitor where apple priced it as high as they could get away with and saved as much money as they could get away with. I mean the screen is great but let’s not pretend it’s anything other than a slightly better iMac screen that have been knocking around for YEARS. The camera IS poor, but Apple know they can get away with it now and we’ll just eat it up.
Regards,
A Fellow Studio Display Owner 😆
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Yep, it’s not great - I’ve had a couple of chats with Apple and they don’t seem to understand the issuesYeah power management is really poor. Even connected to a Mac mini the fans constantly come on. If I change my focus or I take a picture for example on my iPhone and this ‘wakes’ the mac mini to connect to icloud, fans start spinning. Any minor background task the Mac mini does it engages the fans of the display even with the screen staying black. Really needs fixing. Already sent feed-back to Apple. Disappointing.
Kissmo1980
macrumors regular
Feb 16, 2021
I have a MBP 14 inch m1 Max - the camera on it is disgusting -> mainly because you cannot turn off the skin smoothing…
I literally join meeting connecting a Brio 4K - as I am tired of looking like a toy.
I am 42 - I want to show my wrinkles!
Why on earth Apple doesn’t have a slider for the amount of processing is applied to the skin and other components?
It would make people happier.
I imagine these displays have the same problems.
I literally join meeting connecting a Brio 4K - as I am tired of looking like a toy.
I am 42 - I want to show my wrinkles!
Why on earth Apple doesn’t have a slider for the amount of processing is applied to the skin and other components?
It would make people happier.
I imagine these displays have the same problems.
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MisterSavage
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I almost had to return mine when I tried to update the software on it. Not looking forward to applying the update.
petvas
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After the update the web cam quality has noticeable improved. Of course nobody should be expecting miracles here. I cannot say that the camera now is worse than what we have on the MacBook Pro or the iPad Pro. Please also consider that we are viewing images on a much higher res display, so of course everything will be much more noticeable..The web cam is good for me now. Others might still want/need something better, but I am happy now with the camera as it is.
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mikethemartian
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Is there a setting where they let you turn off center stage and allow you to use the entire sensor?The fact is the iMac does have a much better camera (I also have both) because it's using the entire sensor instead of cropping it down to 1/4-1/6 of its area.
They chose the gimmicky center stage feature. The Touch Bar of 2022.
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A camera worthy of a $1500 display, I'm guessing?Quality has definitely improved with the update. More than good enough for web meetings even before, not sure what everybody expects.
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