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How GM Tricked Millions of Drivers Into Being Spied On

• Do they sell Japanese cars in Europe?
  https://www.nissanusa.com/privacy.html
  I'm guessing they do.
  Nissan Connect Terms of Service is a real eye opener. (pdf file, see if you can find it)
  
  Ok, I admit that is to Nissan USA... and this amounts to a single anecdotal source.... But I'm not expecting it to different, in EU, nor am I expecting that any other company won't make same claims to your data. You don't actually own a car anymore, you really just have a licence to drive it, afaict. Hey! Nobody seems to be paying attention, so... just do like Google and say right up front, we own your data.
  
  I think this is the key: Go ahead, try to stop me.
  
  I've made a little hobby out of reading TOS's. Needless to say, it's horrifying to see, essentially, every and all service provider claim they own your data. OWN... and claim unrestricted copyrights. There are minor variations, and often, like Apple, they just buzzword the legal terms up to a maximum level, so, you really don't know what it really means. Usually, it comes down to you knowing or not knowing that to operate legally in {country:USA, China, etc} you must offer the local law enforcement access to the data. So cars are basically just cellphones with wheels that collect.... LOTS and LOTS of really valuable data.
  
  Find a good mechanic and keep your 10 year old car until it's illegal.

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    That was the reason I switched to Linux. Of course, I could have switched to BSD, but Debian potato was easier to install.

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    I expect Nissan USA has quite different conditions than Nissan Europe.

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      I more expect Nissan to have different car models entirely outside of the US. As many makers do.

      Car companies are notorious for not spending for an extra screw on the assembly line if they can prove that penny savings per unit is cheaper than any lawsuit that could come from not having that extra screw. They’re not just gonna install all that fancy-yet-legal American tech on their GDPR-certified cars and simply leave it disabled while eating all the cost.

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      There are lots of minor variations and regional parts sourcing. And the regulations will be worded somewhat differently. I think we're living in a "catch me if you can" type of world... there's really nothing they aren't claiming ownership of. Credit card number happens to be listed in as being captured.. Sure no problem? The cell phone companies, Apple, Google, the hardware people are in a very good position to collect ie. system level. GMS. The Samsung phones are full of gata gathering mechanisms... apps

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    I find it quite funny that you chose Nissan as your example of can’t-touch-this corporate arrogance, since there’s a valid reason they were forced to add “usa” to the end of “nissan” in their domain name. Mr. Uzi Nissan made quite the effort to ultimately prove what ownership means to corporations who assume.

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      by no means am I picking on Nissan, it just happened to be a weblink I kept as an example. The Korean stuff like the high end sedans... Genesis?... They also assume rights to your political opinions, sexual habits and preferences, they know if you're doing the deed in the backseat.. weight sensors... so from what I can see ALL companies are doing this. It's not that hard to do. Grocery stores, drugstores, Couch Tard, slap a bit of boilerplate legal stuff in your TOS and you're now in the data gathering busi

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  Welcome to the so-called "land of the free (TM)".
  Big businesses in the US can get away with just about anything because the politicians are blatantly for sale to the highest bidder here.
  You should see the shit they still allow in our food, and how much we have to pay for medicine and medical care compared to the EU.