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2023 Will Be Remembered as the Year Climate Change Arrived
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2023 Will Be Remembered as the Year Climate Change Arrived (msn.com) 92
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on Monday January 01, 2024 @03:00AM from the global-warning dept.
This summer 80 million Americans were experiencing 105-degree heat. And tonight the Washington Post identifies what was unique about 2023's weather: "the heat's all-consuming relentlessness.
"It went day by day, continent by continent, until people all over the map, whether in the Amazon or the Pacific islands or rural Greece, had glimpsed a climate future for which they are not prepared..."
Even if its extremes are ultimately eclipsed, as seems inevitable, 2023 will mark a point when humanity crossed into a new climate era — an age of "global boiling," as United Nations Secretary General António Guterres called it. The year included the hottest single day on record (July 6) and the hottest ever month (July), not to mention the hottest June, the hottest August, the hottest September, the hottest October, the hottest November, and probably the hottest December. It included a day, November 17, when global temperatures, for the first time ever, reached 2 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial levels.
Discomfort, destruction, and death are the legacy of those records.
In Phoenix, a heat wave went on for so long, with 31 consecutive days above 110 Fahrenheit, that one NASA atmospheric scientist called it "mind-boggling." The surrounding county recorded a record number of heat deaths, nearly 600. In Brazil, drought sapped the normally lush Amazon, causing towns to ration drinking water, contributing to the deaths of endangered pink dolphins, and choking off the river-based system of travel and commerce... At one point the coastal Florida Keys waters reached 100 degrees, comparable to a hot tub...
One explanation for 2023's extreme heat is El Niño — a recurring oceanic phenomenon that warms the waters in the Pacific and causes a global ripple of consequences. But the scale of this year's heat — amplified by human-caused factors and the burning of fossil fuels — is still well beyond what most scientists had thought possible. Some have theorized that planetary warming may be accelerating. Others have said there's not enough evidence. What they agree upon, though, is that the earth is trending toward more extreme heat. That means that the experiences of 2023 can seem astonishing in the short-term but will one day look tame.
This year, then, will wind up as the first — and almost surely not the last — in which temperatures were at or near 1.5 Celsius above preindustrial levels, a threshold the Paris agreement has aimed to avoid.
The article includes two more sobering statistics:
- "The University of Maine's Climate Change Institute logs daily global temperatures going back to 1940. From this July on, almost without fail, every daily temperature in 2023 topped the daily temperature from the same date in any of the prior 83 years."
- "In Brazil, the Rio Negro, one of the Amazon's main tributaries, fell to its lowest level since record keeping began more than a century earlier."
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How easily the genderspecials forget that history began before 2019. Stories like this are why I hate the tech industry.-
"Climate change" is propaganda to help companies that otherwise wouldn't make it. Usually from "do as I say, not as I do" type people like Al Gore flying to climate change conferences in their private jets.
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Exactly. Why am *I* (someone who is definitely *not* a liberal Democrat) playing with solar power? Why did I invest nearly $15k into building my own mostly self-supporting energy system?
Three reasons:
1. Crazy libertarians like energy independence, just not being forced to do it at gunpoint.
2. I should "break even" on the investment in about 12 years--and not only is that right around the time my kids will be moving out, but that move will reduce my electricity usage significantly causing my to more th -
Uh huh. I shouldn't tell you this but your like-minded buddies are now switching tacts. Now it's "we shouldn't have done anything at all to address climate change.", because somehow doing things like improving mpg in cars made it worse. If you're convincing enough you can continue to play off your increasingly-foolish apathy as "i meant to do that".
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My post wasn't denying climate change. I was just saying it's not bad here.
This site is full of morons.
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you know, I hate to burst your bubble, but you might be starving before you can claim your own personal ocean in your backyard;)
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If the area is suddenly more habitable then there's likely to be a lot of migration to the area, can it support that, is there infrastructure ready? If you are in a position to do so, make long term land investments as it becomes more valuable.
If you don't live in that area, time to sell land investments in areas that are getting less habitable!
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That's a political answer and not a practical one. Put up a wall? Someone makes a tunnel. The fact is, the Earth's climate is changing. Global transport exists and people use it to move around where things are more habitable. The trouble is, land is a scarce resource, the population is expanding.
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You believe South America is suddenly inhospitable?
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Does the steel required for your solution magically come into being?
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The US runs various networks of climate sensors. One particularly important one is the US Climate Reference Network [wattsupwiththat.com], which specifically tries to exclude stations subject to UHI, stations in the middle of airports, etc.. If you look at the graph, 2023 was nothing particularly special. Hot summers happen, news at 11:00.
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Sure, but TFA is about the USA.
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That's a fair point, but trend analysis excluding UHI shows increasing temperatures in the USA.
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Yes because it was posted here and this is a USA centric site. Unfortunately for you every country is posting the same stories about their own countries, so no your USA "example" does not hand wave away the results.
Europe just broke the previous record for hottest summer on record, the previous record was the year before. Interestingly it wasn't just broken slightly, it was broken by 0.66C, which is more than the entire margin set by the previous 9 records.
Australia had the hottest winter on record. Likewis
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Please don't tell them, they might eventually realize that's true and want to turn the rest of the world into crap, too.
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Luckyo's climate denier troll site?
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Tony Wazzup is still trying to claim that after he proved himself wrong? That guy got guts. No brain however.
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As things get progressively worse, nobody will have time to remember when things started to get harder to ignore. Not that this will stop the usual deniers from continuing to deny.
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So you have read the comments here already, I see.
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No, but it sure will be a record year for disastrous headlines. Despite Global boiling [slashdot.org], Record Warmth [slashdot.org]x2 [slashdot.org],, [slashdot.org] virii [slashdot.org],mass extinction [slashdot.org],and the urgent problem" [slashdot.org] otherwise being mentioned several times per week I'm forecasting a 20% uptick in doomsday scenarios as Slashdot continues to chase clicks in its polarizing spew of climate stories.
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I didn't realize anyone still used that particular misguided piece of pedantry in 2023.
From Wiktionary [wiktionary.org]:
virii
(proscribed) plural of virusUsage notes
- The plural virii, though common, is based on a misunderstanding of Latin. [...]In short: when you write virii, you signal to those who do know latin that you're a pretentious ignoramus. Don't.
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When you complain about "virii", you signal to those who know English that you're a humourless pedant. Don't.
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"virus" in Original Latin and "virus" in today's language (English or not), has different meanings.
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GET. Global Ecological Tilt. That's the name I consider appropriate for what's happening and what has been foreseen and warned about for decades. What we observed in 2023 was the cascading effects finally kicking in and giving us a taste of what's to come. If anybody thinks last year was though, they better prepare for incoming, because it's only going to get worse. The ecosphere lags a few decades behind when it comes to anthropocenic effects and once the damage is done its very hard and tedious and takes
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Why does nobody look at all the positives? More people die of cold related issues than heat. Warming will lower our usage of gasoline (cars more efficient in warmer air) and natural gas (less heat demand).
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Well, no.
You cannot move people from places that become uninhabitable due to heat to places that are colder because there's already people there. Simply because it's easier to make a place habitable by heating it up than it is to make a place habitable by cooling it down. And then there's the arable land issue. Land that becomes unsuitable for growing anything because the temperatures (and humidity) changes is not compensated by land becoming arable with increasing temperatures because the soil isn't. Getti
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The world gained 75 million people just in 2023. That's our bigger issue not the climate. You can't blame climate on food shortage when the real issue is continued population growth which consumes massive resources
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Don't worry about this, as soon as the sea levels rise, less land becomes inhabitable and the people start struggling for the few remaining resources, that population problem will solve itself nicely.
And if we keep rising the temperatures another 5 or 10 degrees, and with some effort we can reach that, I'm absolutely convinced we have the power to do so, so if we manage to do that, that problem will reach a final solution.
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We don't have the power to do anything unless we stop all construction and expansion. The world pours 30 Billion TONs of concrete every year. Are there any plans to stop expansion?? Nope. It's all talk nobody is actually doing anything.
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Right. So... I'm supposed to get a LAW and blow up some concrete trucks?
I can't do jack. And I don't want to anymore. At this point, all I want anymore is watch the world burn and the idiots who keep saying "there is no change and you just want to take away muh freedumbs" suffer.
I'm a simple man with simple tastes.
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Maybe, but there is still going to be 10 billion people on the planet in 2100.
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That's easy to say but there is no solution given, so what is it? Please stop having kids everybody?
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See that's not the point you think it is. When 5% of the population on this planet is creating 37% of the pollution, the problem isn't that out of that 75m that were added about 500k are actually going to contribute in any major sense to the pollution of the planet. The problem is that 5%, get rid of them and you've nixed almost two-fifths the CO2 we're producing.
It's not a population issue, it's a management issue.
Well you know what? You can rid us of yourself and help out your cause.
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The people that scream the most about climate change are flying in jets and have massive properties so it's all just for show profit. Things going to get worse - we imported 300K migrants in the USA just last month. They came from small vilages and used little resources. Here they will need cars and electricity and living spaces and heating and cooling.
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"Simply because it's easier to make a place habitable by heating it up than it is to make a place habitable by cooling it down."
Are you sure about that? Compare the heating degree days at 65 F in St. Cloud Mn, to the cooling degree days at 80 F in Mesa AZ. Then into account the fact that the heating in MN is needed when the days are at best 9 hours long, if they are not overcast and the solar panels are not buried under a snow drift, while peak AC in AZ occurs with 14 hour days in cloudless skies and a hig
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Heating requires some wood and a place to burn it in.
Cooling requires electricity and specialized equipment that can push the heat from your home outside.
Which one do you think is easier to accomplish? Note that most of the "extreme climate" areas are also unsurprisingly low in technological advancement.
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You are assuming an infinite supply of wood. Trees have a finite growth rate. A bit of research shows;
"The old rule of thumb is that a well managed woodlot will yield about 1 cord per acre per year"
"In a milder climate such as the Mid-Atlantic or Southeast, estimate one to two cords per 1,000 sq. ft. of home. "
"For colder climates, such as the Northeast and Midwestern states, using wood as a primary heat source, we recommend having 2-3 cords per 1,000 square feet"
"there were 2,299,740 households in the sta
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By the way, www.degreedays.net has a calculator for heating and cooling.
St. Cloud MN has 8362 heating degree days using 65 F as the base.
Mesa AZ has 1699 cooling degree days using 80 F as the base. Not quite 1/5 of the MN value.
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Like to see a citation on more people dying of cold then heat. Locally, cold spell causes about one death a day, usually the homeless in their tents. Heat wave, it was hundreds of deaths a day, mostly people in their apartments.
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"According to a 2021 study published in The Lancet Planetary Health, cold is far more deadly. For every death linked to heat, nine are connected to cold."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/j... [forbes.com]
Globally "4.5 million Cold deaths vastly outweigh heat deaths. This is common knowledge in the academic literature and for instance the Lancet finds that each year, almost 600,000 people die globally from heat but 4.5 million from cold."
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There has been undeniable evidence for some time, yet there are still MANY climate change deniers. Even the ridiculed forecasts from 20 years ago have turned out to be remarkably accurate... but facts and reason no longer matter in this world.
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There has been undeniable evidence for some time, yet there are still MANY climate change deniers. Even the ridiculed forecasts from 20 years ago have turned out to be remarkably accurate... but facts and reason no longer matter in this world.
Actually, the general opinion on the right is that climate change is real as well.
Just, that, it's too late to do anything, so don't do anything.
In other words, climate change denial worked, until it doesn't. Now it's too late to do anything about it, so f*ck off.
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The loudest conservative proclaimers are still declaring that a) it's natural and b) we don't need to do anything about it, the system will self-balance. Panics screw up markets, and they don't want that.
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Theyre basically right about the self balance thing. The laws of physics, biology, geology, chemistry and thermodynamics dont give a rats ass about politics and misinformation. Humanity will almost certainly survive, but the rebalancing is gonna be BRUTAL and the conservatives will be the ones who get it right in the teeth. Despite a few right wing ultra billionaires, conservatives are less educated as a group, have less accurate information and are thus poorer. Less brains and less money means less able t
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I'm wondering how much longer they can keep the market in the dark about the situation. You see the insurance industry being one of the first to move in response to climate change, because their whole business rests on averaging disasters over long periods. They believe their own actuaries over the politics.
The real market disruptions will be a few decades out, when the market has either collapsed or priced enough people out of food and shelter. People will start crying out for socialism just like they did
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We are in a race between education and oblivion
-Bucky Fuller
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Which is even more of a nonsense stance than denialism was.
It's never too late to do something as every reduction we achieve means less problems down the road. Sure, we are going to experience some negative effects from global warming no matter what we do but how bad those negative effects get depends on our actions going forward.
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Accurate? Comedy gold that one.
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This Chico Harlan guy is a hyperbole machine, a disaster novel writer turned journalist.
Also, this assholeâ(TM)s article bad three paragraphs of what is tantamount to science fiction before basically saying that it was El Nino.
Chico Harlan, please stop writing climate disaster novels from the comfort of your home in Rome and get real.
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Sick of their shit, their buying politicians, their goddamn racketeering. And BTW, they are also war criminals and traitors.
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Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain...
And if we all believe it really, really hard, it will happen!
Anything I forgot?
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Given the current amount of CO2 already in the atmosphere, the amount of CO2 we are still emitting today, and the stability of CO2 in the atmosphere, any change we do now will have an impact in ~20 years. This is why every IPCC scenario is the same for the next 20 years: it only starts to diverge (toward +1.5, or +2 or +3 or +4) after that point.
Which means the acceleration we are seeing now is due to what was emitted in 2003 and onward. This is not really news then. If we start counting what happened in 2003 as news, we might as well talk about the Pentium 4.
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It is well measured, recorded, and demonstrated that the pandemic reduction in emissions had immediate and direct impacts and levels decreased significantly(statistically), globally.
A lot of this has to due with GHG belts. There's a methane belt, and a CO2 belt. What you're describing really lines up with how the methane belt works, as methane fizzles in the atmosphere converting into other molecules, such as CO2 and water vapor.
All that matters is what we do now, though. By your logic what we do today
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... figuring out how to sequester carbon, and switching to nuclear power, along with (where possible and practical) renewables.
Or - we can just emote, call people "deniers", try to make political hay, etc.
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And we will probably also need to do some solar radiation management, at least for a while. The bizarre irony of our times is that the fight against developing better nuclear, against expanding nuclear energy use (not just for electricity), against developing point source capture that would work with fossil fuels (eg. Allam Cycle), against building direct air capture, against building CO2 pipelines, against industrial scale underground CO2 sequestration, against ocean sequestration, and against any investi
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Just like with this, a lot of people will just pretend it ain't him.
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When I was born up until grade school we were worried about global cooling.
No, we weren't. Only a tiny minority of scientists ever believed in that, and that idea was discredited and moved on from very rapidly because there was no supporting evidence.
AGW is exactly the opposite of that in literally every way.
Stop spreading the global cooling theory myth. It does everyone a disservice, including you.
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If you look at the number of scientific article on global cooling and global warming, you would see that even from the start it was a crushing minority of global cooling article something like 3 out of 40 for warming (and the trend during that 60ies and 70ies decade went worst , the decade afterward it was 1 for 400 and so on to the point nobody whatsoever is putting any global cooling article by the 80ies). But denier gotta deny , so they will ignore that and continue to tout the global cooling myth.
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The global cooling research was partially correct, though. Particulate emissions were indeed having a cooling effect -- but they were just masking part of the underlying warming trend. As we regulated pollution to limit particulate emissions we removed most of that masking effect.
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When I was born up until grade school we were worried about global cooling
I remember this, that has been proved false, even in the 70s. I also saw somewhere Oil Companies funded these cooling papers.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/scientists-never-warmed-to-the-idea-of-global-cooling/
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So you topped caring about what the science had to say in the early 1980's? You heard one thing then so that's whats happening for the rest of time.
What's funny about the acid rain example is that most people actually got on board about the problem and actually did something about it and it mostly worked! (Acid Rain Program Results [epa.gov])
So from your own example "fuck it" isn't really viable nor true, it's just ideological nihilism.
Also the actual scientists (no disrespect to Leonard Nimoy) since the time you were both in fact in school were making pretty accurate predictions even since the 1970's about the warming factor
Evaluating the Performance of Past Climate Model Projections [harvard.edu]
You were given wrong info as a toddler and the fact that you take your vague toddler recollections as accurate scientific consensus over say, the actual scientific consensus is a little less than convincing.
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"So you topped caring about what the science had to say in the early 1980's?"
Yeah, when he was 5 years old. A real critical thinker!
"You were given wrong info as a toddler..."
No he wasn't, he's just lying to you now. He can't even remember what he was told as a toddler, none of us can. And as a toddler, he was 10 years too late.
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by dfghjk ( 711126 ) on Monday January 01, 2024 @10:19AM (#64121727)
This reads more like a story you made up as a troll in about 30 seconds. If you are 46, you weren't "worried" about global cooling in grade school. You would have been born in 1977, after global cooling was no longer a thing. And acid rain was a problem, and it got solved. And global warming is a thing, and climate change is a more accurate term for it that is used more pervasively now because of liars like you.
"I can vaguely recall mentions of global cooling as far back as really early 80's..."
No you can't, and why the backpedal? In the early 80's you'd have been no older than 6 years old, barely old enough to form memories at all, and certainly not memories of events 10 years in the past that you could not possibly have been exposed to. Ask SuperKendall for some tips on how to lie more believably.
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We've all been reading about global warming for decades at this point, and seeing evidence elsewhere of videos of receding glaciers, polar bears swimming due to lack of ice, etc, etc, as well new global temperature records being set every year.
Still, if you want to ignore all the evidence elsewhere and only look in your own back yard, then for anyone living in New England in the US, we've been staring it in the face for almost 10 years with lack of snow and sustained cold weather - no sledding, no ice skati
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"You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-b-b-baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something, here's something you're never gonna fff-forget, baby
You know, you know, you know, you just ain't seen nothin' yet
You need an education
Got to go to school" - BTO -
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The title of this article wasn't a question, though. Betteridge doesn't apply, although I'm sure that there would have been plenty of people who disagreed with it if it was a question.
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Is the climate change in the room with us right now?
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No, the 1930s will be the year forgotten when climate change arrived.
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In fact the climate is constantly changing. The real question is. Can humanity do anything real considering our current political will and technology to control the change?
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The skeptics love to point out how this or that area had record low temperatures "proving" that global warming is a hoax. That is cherry picked data, and therefore a load of crap. It's the same thing when global warming believers cherry pick data.
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