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Tasteful password manager for Mac and iOS

Secrets 4

Tasteful password manager for Mac and iOS

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This is the latest and greatest version of the loved password manager for Mac and iOS. The inner workings have been rewritten to support a new major feature: Shared Vaults. The UI has been refreshed but still feel undeniably like Secrets: elegant and friendly.
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Hello 👋, maker here.

This update was a long time in the making, and I'm excited to finally release it.

A major refactor the entire storage and sync system was needed to make way for the Secrets' 4 major feature: Shared Vaults.

Along the way many other improvements were added: • Flexible unlocking methods. Want to use just Face ID? Sure. Want to use a passphrase or Touch ID? Yep. Want to use Face ID and a passphrase? You can do that too! You can even have different unlock methods on each device and have them all syncing with iCloud. • Support for even more browsers via our browser extension. • Search improvements

The original version of Secrets was release 7 years ago. Secrets 4 is the first paid upgrade to it. Rest assured, we're not moving to a subscription, but if you prefer one, are options for you too. Better yet, we're offering 3 months for the price of 1 to the first 500 hunters that use the code HUNT3FOR1 in the App Store (must be redeemed on an iOS device running iOS 14 and later).

If you haven't tried out Secrets before. Give it a spin and let me know what you think in the comments. If you're already a Secrets's user, thank you!

There's an odd issue here. Secrets 4 needs MacOS 13. That's Ventura. Ventura is still a mess. Many of us have not yet moved to Ventura. Offering a discount isn't enough incentive to join another MacOS permanent beta. Why in the world reduce your potential market by restricting installation on a typical new MacOS? The uninformed masses are not your market, they buy 1P. Secrets market is a somewhat more informed group and those are the types that either jump on a new MacOS immediately or wait until MacOS 14 is launched then install 13. I'm in the latter group. More than willing to pay for Secrets 4. But not at the cost of installing MacOS 13.

@ray_mond3 because there's a nasty issue with the Keychain on macOS 12 that requires a restart every time your Mac goes to sleep to unlock Secrets: https://developer.apple.com/foru...

Secrets 4 was always meant to be compatible with Monterey (and aside from that issue, it still is). I have an open TSI with Apple and I'm hoping they can fix it. If they do, I'll drop the deployment target to macOS 12 immediately.

@ray_mond3 did you alter the Info.plist to run on 12? Let your Mac sleep for more than 15 minutes. I was able to reproduce this issue on at least three different Macs running Monterey (and also had a bunch of reports during the beta).
@pfandrade_ Odd. I have no issues with sleep and MacOS 12. I just tried and waited a bit over 15 min. Secrets launched fine, logged in fine. Its been in sleep for hours, never had an issue. 12.6.6, M1 Air.
@pfandrade_ No alterations to any plists. No alterations to default sleep mode. The Air is basically box stock and just runs without any hic ups other than what we have learned to expect from Apple and OS releases. Secrets has always been fine.
@ray_mond3 the issue I'm talking about is with Secrets 4 and the way it uses the Keychain (it uses features Secrets 3 doesn't use). Secrets 3 works fine on Monterey.
Hey Paulo, the design is very clean and Secrets looks really good. Will Secrets support passkeys going forward? I'm a long time 1password user and passkeys are just so easy, knowing that they're all in on supporting them as they become more wide spread is a major reason I'm currently sticking with them!
@richinapps this is definitely something I intend to work on! Honestly I'm hoping Apple announces a Passkeys API (similar to Password AutoFIll) at this WWDC. One issue with storing passkeys on a password manager without fully integrating with iOS/macOS is that there's no way to "copy paste" a passkey to login into an app. So, even more than Password AutoFill, a Passkeys integration would be very welcome.

Extremely misleading marketing.

The developer has been selling Secrets 3 while promising a "major update" since last year. Unfortunately that "major update" has now vanished into thin air, and in place we've received a "paid upgrade", which is a completely separate application all together.

I bought Secrets 3 in March. Two months later, I have received a single update on the macOS side, with a single line of patch notes detailing "Fixed a couple of issues", and zero updates on the iOS side. This does not strike me as a "major update", so I'm definitely not getting what was advertised. And now, according to the developer, I can expect support for "the near future". I have absolutely no idea how long that is, as that question was quickly deflected.

I cannot recommend anyone buy the full version of Secrets 4, at least if you expect updates. If you go with the monthly subscription, you at least understand that you will never get anything past the month you've paid for.


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