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How to buy a Dell laptop with the Intel ME disabled from the factory, as governm...

 6 years ago
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Posted by5 years ago

How to buy a Dell laptop with the Intel ME disabled from the factory, as government agencies buy them.

  1. Visit the Dell page for the Dell Rugged 14 5414, a semi-rugged version of one of the regular models in the Dell Latitude line. Note there's an upcharge for Windows 7 and a major discount for Ubuntu Linux.

  2. Select "Intel vPro™ - ME Inoperable, Custom Order".

/u/zachsandberg posted about this not long after I had noticed it and before I got around to making a new thread about it.

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Comment deleted by user · 5 yr. ago
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Holy shit. Even decently pimped out, it’s over $4,500USD. And it would have less than half the performance envelope of a similarly-priced Eurocom.

Sure, it’s rugged and all, but a bulky case in an era of no fragile moving parts doesn’t (IMHO) warrant a price that’s twice that of comparable hardware. Hell, even the 1TB M.2 SSD that they are quoting ($1,362USD) is more than twice that of a top-shelf 1Tb M.2 Samsung 960 Pro. Unless they’ve done some pretty extraordinary things to that stick of chewing gum, it isn’t worth the grand-plus that they’re asking for.

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Do you normally buy your RAM and your SSDs from your laptop vendor?

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Unless they’ve done some pretty extraordinary things to that stick of chewing gum, it isn’t worth the grand-plus that they’re asking for.

It is when the taxpayer is picking up the bill. And Dell knows that.

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They provide the warranty and support, taking the risk of that hardware failing within its life

Not defending it, but companies have to make money as well

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Not sure what boxes you checked, but I only hit $2,600 or so, plus whatever I can get an SSD and RAM for.

$3k isn't terrible if you're buying new laptops. Still, a used ThinkPad is 1/10th the price...

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Can order it without a webcam too, that's kinda cool.

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There's an option for a built-in shutter, which is nice if you want the versatility.

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· 5 yr. ago

That's really cool! I've been looking for something like this for quite some time. But it still has a mic installed, which I don't like.

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I got one. I'll test the status of the ME using ME cleaner and Intel's provided kernel module. We'll see how it goes. ETA 12 days.

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Nice. I'd be interested in hearing about what you think of it running Linux in general -- assuming you bought it to run Linux.

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· 5 yr. ago

How you know it isn't a scam

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Comment deleted by user · 5 yr. ago
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This has been fixed by Dell.

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What does "fixed" mean in this context?

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· 5 yr. ago

Neat but a bit pricey

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You pay for what you get, even if what you get is less than what you would have gotten if you had paid less in the first place.

Capitalism, FTW!!

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Comment deleted by user · 5 yr. ago
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· 5 yr. ago

Why doesn't "no out of band systems management" do the same thing?

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Not paying the extra for vPro means no access to the management features, but all of the management functionality is still there and can be exploited.

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Wow. Pretty cool!

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Why comments about Purism and system76 were removed?

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Ubuntu Linux 14.04 SP1

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tl;dr what is Intel ME?

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It's part of Intel AMT:

Intel® Active Management Technology (Intel® AMT) is a set of firmware-resident hardware capabilities that enable network-management applications to perform sophisticated remote functions, even when the target device is powered off or has a corrupted operating system (OS). […]

https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-active-management-technology-downloads

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does this piss anyone else off that this exists?


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