Windows 11 struggles to reach 20% share according to AdDuplex
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Gee, I wonder why.
On the computers, I have it on I also run Startallback to make it more tolerable.
Take apps and features for instance.
It's a downgrade. In Windows 10 you click an item and click uninstall. Now you click 3 dots and click uninstall in the drop-down menu, with no clear indication which item you just selected to uninstall.
Now you might say it's the one right above it, which is correct. But if you are on an uninstalling spree, the items tend to shift around as others get removed, making you unsure which one you selected to uninstall.
Another downgrade is connecting to wifi. Before you would click on the wifi icon in the bottom left and a list of wifi would show up. Now you click on that general section and click a little arrow next to the wifi icon.
Clicking the actual wifi icon turns wifi off. I learned last week that the new Windows 11 way of doing things is a phone support nightmare
Gee, I wonder why.
On the computers, I have it on I also run Startallback to make it more tolerable.
Take apps and features for instance.It's a downgrade. In Windows 10 you click an item and click uninstall. Now you click 3 dots and click uninstall in the drop-down menu, with no clear indication which item you just selected to uninstall.
Now you might say it's the one right above it, which is correct. But if you are on an uninstalling spree, the items tend to shift around as others get removed, making you unsure which one you selected to uninstall.
Another downgrade is connecting to wifi. Before you would click on the wifi icon in the bottom left and a list of wifi would show up. Now you click on that general section and click a little arrow next to the wifi icon.Clicking the actual wifi icon turns wifi off. I learned last week that the new Windows 11 way of doing things is a phone support nightmare
Getting an IP address on the other hand also is a nightmare on Windows 10. Try doing that with a 70 year old at home with a VPN issue? On win10 it's 6 mouse clicks all hidden as networking shows everything but the IP address.
Windows 11 settings are actually useful in comparison
Getting an IP address on the other hand also is a nightmare on Windows 10. Try doing that with a 70 year old at home with a VPN issue? On win10 it's 6 mouse clicks all hidden as networking shows everything but the IP address.
Windows 11 settings are actually useful in comparison
I just tried it with windows 10 / start / settings / network and internet / ethernet / clicked the ethernet adapter and the IP address is at the bottom. That's not terrible and nothing was hidden.
Gee, I wonder why.
On the computers, I have it on I also run Startallback to make it more tolerable.
Take apps and features for instance.It's a downgrade. In Windows 10 you click an item and click uninstall. Now you click 3 dots and click uninstall in the drop-down menu, with no clear indication which item you just selected to uninstall.
Now you might say it's the one right above it, which is correct. But if you are on an uninstalling spree, the items tend to shift around as others get removed, making you unsure which one you selected to uninstall.
Another downgrade is connecting to wifi. Before you would click on the wifi icon in the bottom left and a list of wifi would show up. Now you click on that general section and click a little arrow next to the wifi icon.Clicking the actual wifi icon turns wifi off. I learned last week that the new Windows 11 way of doing things is a phone support nightmare
Or do it the easy way, Right click from start or any shortcut, click uninstall.
Usually, when I see the complaints Win10 ride or die people have, it makes me weep for humanity.
Or do it the easy way, Right click from start or any shortcut, click uninstall.
Usually, when I see the complaints Win10 ride or die people have, it makes me weep for humanity.
This is fine if you're uninstalling a couple apps, but literally nobody does it this way, nor is this optimal if you're mass uninstalling software from a certain point in time. What if you're uninstalling a suite of tools?
It's mental you spin this into being a user issue, rather than a simple UI tweak to get the new menus they spent all this time working on to ya know... be as good as the older iterations. Why is being on par with previous Windows versions such a tall order, from the literal software giant of the world??
Stupid hardware requirements + lacking functionality and same performance compared to Windows 10 = struggle to reach 20%.
I'm one of that 20%, BTW. But I'm being honest here.
Stupid hardware requirements + lacking functionality and same performance compared to Windows 10 = struggle to reach 20%.
I'm one of that 20%, BTW. But I'm being honest here.
In some cases, Windows 11 is/has caused performance issues on certain setups w/ AMD. I have just one device that's eligible for the upgrade, but don't see the point in upgrading.
In some cases, Windows 11 is/has caused performance issues on certain setups w/ AMD. I have just one device that's eligible for the upgrade, but don't see the point in upgrading.
Besides the looks, there's nothing worth upgrading for, honestly. I'm an enthusiast so I always want the latest version of stuff, but really, there's no point other than looks and a few small things here and there. You'll be just fine on Windows 10 until 2025 at least.
Besides the looks, there's nothing worth upgrading for, honestly. I'm an enthusiast so I always want the latest version of stuff, but really, there's no point other than looks and a few small things here and there. You'll be just fine on Windows 10 until 2025 at least.
I'm an enthusiast as well, but yeah, this is the first time I'm holding off on upgrading to the next Windows version. I do plan to keep Windows 10 running until 2025 on my existing PC's. We'll see what comes next.
In some cases, Windows 11 is/has caused performance issues on certain setups w/ AMD. I have just one device that's eligible for the upgrade, but don't see the point in upgrading.
There are no major issues with AMD and Windows 11. There are specifically some performance benefits on Windows 11 on modern AMD CPUs. Thread allocation is more granular and better informed based on thermals and cache to physical core location on the CCD in conjunction with the CPU's CCD layout.
There are other things that are better scheduled that result in better multi-tasking performance (smoother)- which has benefits that won't show up in most benchmark metrics. (More granular tests do show this.)
The scheduler changes also affect the GPU and there is a general 'smoothness' in gaming as well. Some small avg FPS boosts, but more importantly, minimal FPS and frame times are better, making gameplay smoother.
If you are happy with Windows 10 - there isn't a major reason to upgrade yet. The only major consumer reason to run Windows 11 is the 12th gen Intel CPUs or the upcoming AMD processors later this year.
(I would bet that the fall Win11 update will have a lot more performance and low-level feature changes that could make it a needed upgrade for most users, but there is nothing wrong waiting until them to see.)
TL:DR Just some stuff to notice about Windows 11 that most tech spaces don't talk about.
Well, considering you have to have a PC that is 2 years old or less or it will not work on it, I can understand why. Did Microsoft think somehow everyone would dash out and get new computers so they could run this? My lands, my PCs main components (mainboard, CPU, and memory) are almost 7 years old, and it's smoking fast! Why would I replace it?
Of course, my primary OS is openSUSE, but that is beside the point; I dual-boot in Windows for some games.
Well, considering you have to have a PC that is 2 years old or less or it will not work on it, I can understand why. Did Microsoft think somehow everyone would dash out and get new computers so they could run this? My lands, my PCs main components (mainboard, CPU, and memory) are almost 7 years old, and it's smoking fast! Why would I replace it?
Of course, my primary OS is openSUSE, but that is beside the point; I dual-boot in Windows for some games.
I'd say 2017 or newer... so 5 years old.
Well, considering you have to have a PC that is 2 years old or less or it will not work on it, I can understand why. Did Microsoft think somehow everyone would dash out and get new computers so they could run this? My lands, my PCs main components (mainboard, CPU, and memory) are almost 7 years old, and it's smoking fast! Why would I replace it?
Of course, my primary OS is openSUSE, but that is beside the point; I dual-boot in Windows for some games.
Don't confuse the headline above with Microsoft's plans or expectations.
"Windows 11 struggles"
Oh, really? According to who or what? LOL
Well, considering you have to have a PC that is 2 years old or less or it will not work on it, I can understand why. Did Microsoft think somehow everyone would dash out and get new computers so they could run this? My lands, my PCs main components (mainboard, CPU, and memory) are almost 7 years old, and it's smoking fast! Why would I replace it?
Of course, my primary OS is openSUSE, but that is beside the point; I dual-boot in Windows for some games.
you need max 5 year old cpu which is already very recent so why do you have to deliberately lie about it when its already bad enough?
you need max 5 year old cpu which is already very recent so why do you have to deliberately lie about it when its already bad enough?
Its not completely accurate the way he phrased it, but a lot of is got top of the line laptops with i7 CPUs four or less years ago and basically would have been forced to throw away a new computer 2 years in just so we could run W11 and be officially supported. So its not completely an exaggeration. It was a really bad move by Microsoft.
I have 3 PC's that fully support it but I can't stand the interface (and most of the issues I have with it are also some of the most requested in the Feedback hub too), the only computer I do run it on is a older 4th Gen with a TPM 1.2 running the insider (and being I hate using the interface I don't use it as much as I did the insider 10 computer I retired *it was a 1st gen i5 and very very tried).
I have 3 PC's that fully support it but I can't stand the interface (and most of the issues I have with it are also some of the most requested in the Feedback hub too), the only computer I do run it on is a older 4th Gen with a TPM 1.2 running the insider (and being I hate using the interface I don't use it as much as I did the insider 10 computer I retired *it was a 1st gen i5 and very very tried).
It's crazy!
On the computers, I have it on I also run Startallback to make it more tolerable. Take apps and features of instance.
That's a downgrade. In Windows 10 you click an item and click uninstall. Now you click 3 dots and click uninstall in the drop-down menu, with no clear indication which item you just selected.
While I like the idea of the add-on software available (suggested it to a few people at work that bought new computers that came with 11 *and they got it, to make 11 bearable), I'd rather not have to buy it for all the computers (unless they have a home site deal).
Dumb UI issues are what is preventing me from using it all the time.... even just stupid stuff that bugs me like a desktop context menu not opening full size then quickly resizing... being forced to have recommended apps on start, just let me fill the whole thing up with pinned apps... i don't need anything recommended to me so it's a waste of space... dumb glitches that are still there in dev builds like the system tray tooltips showing up on the wrong part of the screen.. or just randomly showing up for no reason
The task bar is so bad and stripped out most of it's feature.
The should make that simple & dumb task bar only available for tablet mode or something.
It gets so much hate yet I really like it, it doesn't seem that bad.
Charts be like: "Slava Ukraine!"
What advantage does Windows 11 give over Windows 10.
Yet to see any reason to "downgrade" to Windows 11
What advantage does Windows 11 give over Windows 10.
Yet to see any reason to "downgrade" to Windows 11
Be no advantage for most people to be honest.
20%, that is more than I thought it would get to be honest.
Hmm? I just created a bootable usb yesterday with Windows 11. Half heartedly thinking about trying it out on one of my 2 unsupported laptops or 1 unsupported desktop, but the more I see discussions like this, the more I say no thanks to myself!
Hmm? I just created a bootable usb yesterday with Windows 11. Half heartedly thinking about trying it out on one of my 2 unsupported laptops or 1 unsupported desktop, but the more I see discussions like this, the more I say no thanks to myself!
Honestly, I'd say if you have the spare hardware to try it on, go for it. It'll be a learning experience. Not only will you have first hand experience to share with others, but you'll actually know rather than just hearing how bad or good it is. But yes, it's pretty bad... but others will tell you that it's amazing. Who's correct?
If you don't have the hardware you could always run it in a virtual machine, that way nothing gets destroyed in the process. Instead of throwing one of the laptops against the wall in frustration, you can just delete the VM and worry about how long your existing OS is going to be supported for.
Windows 11 has one horrible problem with AMD processors, TPM causing stuttering.
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